Hypothetical: Kicker Hideaway 10" vs Ultimax 8"

Assume same 180 watts of power going to the Ultimax 8" which would be mounted on rear deck (trunk baffle) and the Hideaway 10" would go under front passenger seat. Both have bass boost (6dB at 40 Hz).

I'm guessing that though it's super shallow (shallower than any of their listed subs), the Hideaway might hit slightly lower notes, but the Ultimax 8" isn't a slouch with that 16mm xmax. Which would I feel more/be louder? I could use WinISD, but I can't find the Hideaway specs anywhere.

Hideaway 10" specs

Ultimax 8" specs

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ckeeler11

My question is why would you only be putting 180 watts to the Ultimax? You need to buy an amp so get one that will take advantage of the extra power handling. If done properly the Ultimax should be a better setup all around and will most likely hit lower frequencies with more authority.

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Both have bass boost (6dB at 40 Hz).

Irrelevant to anything since you should not be using it.

marktastic [OP]

Noted about the wattage. I appreciate the input. I was just trying to keep things similar for the comparison.

Regarding bass boost, my car has a pretty bad bass rolloff, I was hoping to use that instead of buying a full on DSP. Is that really a bad idea?

ckeeler11

It won't fix the rolloff. It just boosts bass at that frequency and will most likely introduce distortion. You could get an LC2i Pro or Kicker KeyLOC to fix the rolloff.

marktastic [OP]

Sorry, I'm not trying to be difficult, just trying to understand.

What is the difference between bass boost and raising the sliders around that same frequency on an equalizer?

ckeeler11

Bass boost is going to boost a certain frequency at a fixed Db. In this instance it is 40 hz getting boosted 6 Db. An eq can be adjusted + or - Db and depending on the eq can affect multiple frequencies. An EQ should not be boosted if possible as it can also introduce distortion. Every 3Db gain is like doubling the power. So the recommendation for EQ's is cut instead of boost. So if a higher frequency is loud you do not boost lower frequencies to catch up but you could cut the one that is loud to match the rest.

marktastic [OP]

Thanks for the knowledge, I appreciate all the insight. After more reading, I'm not sure anymore if my car has rolloff or if it's factory EQ'd that way. Or maybe it's a combination of both.

I'll have to disable my car's ANC mic and do some more testing before deciding which of those LOCs to buy. Either way it does look like it would be easy to save up and install one of those later on, after I get the other pieces in.

ckeeler11

No problem. A good test would be to run a sweep to see if the volume decreases at a certain point. You can do a sine sweep from say 80 hz down to 20 hz or so and see if the sound gets quieter at a certain point. Yes ANC can screw stuff up as well.