Combat style question

So I just cleared the base game on twilight and now I'm on midnight. I'm attempting to inquire about the Gikei Ryu style. I was super hyped to get the blue demon's style after all the hell he gave me. In every video, I see people absolutely destroying their enemies and making it look even cooler. However, I tried it and don't really get it. I don't know if I'm playing it wrong or something but it feels kinda, slow? Awkward? Do I just need to git gud? I'm looking for opinions. My favorite style equips are mugai ryu, tennen risshin ryu and Hayabusa ryu.

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snipez

Gikei is a tricky one. My first impression was very positive because its advantages as far as speed and mobility goes seems clear early on, but I would say it’s not an easy style to master.

Take the counterspark for example. My first thought, like many others, was “cool if I whiff I basically do a dodge”. But this isn’t necessarily a good thing. If you meant to land an effective counterspark but whiffed Gikei is “forgiving” in that you teleported a bit so maybe won’t get punished, but you still whiffed and possibly ended in a position that was unintended and cost Ki. In short Gikei’s parry window is relatively narrow, so either you practice adjusting or switch back to stance that’s more forgiving in CS.

As far as MAs go, it’s strong overall, but most of it is primarily about re-positioning for me. The shuriken attack for example creates a bit of distance while whittling a bit away at Ki. Shadow clone on the other hand allows you to close the gap with an attack. Both of these I tend to use more as an intermediate MA between attacks often on other stances. The triangle attack is a pretty good finisher when enemy is about to have Ki depleted but otherwise it’s pretty risky. The VA I prefer on Gikei is the one that allows you to kick off an enemy then grapple attack towards them, another very strong move upon Ki depletion.

Hope this helps, I’m sure others chime in on other ways to use.

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Key_Preparation1871 [OP]

Ok, I think I get it. It's not a good solo stance but it's top tier for switching and cancels. I will have to mess around with that.

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Key_Preparation1871 [OP]

You mean because of the ground it covers right? I don't know. I really like tennen risshin ryu's counterspark alot because when you whiff, alot of the time you still get a stagger and or some half way decent ki damage. Hayabusa's counterspark just feels so perfect and idk why. Then mugai ryu's counterspark feels like it covers more frames, I could be wrong but I like it alot.

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Key_Preparation1871 [OP]

Of course, I'm just glad to hear opinions from someone who really has a good feel for the style. I felt like I couldn't get it, probably because my playstyle is up close, pressuring and triggering panic to take advantage. It's not like I just picked it up and dropped it though, I try every style out for at least 3 missions and 3 regions to try and get a grasp of it. I love the kick the most because of the grab potential and the shuriken throw really makes me feel like I'm being mean lol. Like you can apply an element and just circle around their attacks lol.

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Key_Preparation1871 [OP]

That's actually my entire playstyle lol. I use elements and countersparks to trigger panicked state to izuna drop with Hayabusa or grab with tennen risshin ryu. My basic go-to is mugai ryu to swap and cancel into the others. I just completed the story lol, I've already tried every katana style and odachi style. I'm actually on edo part 1 on midnight. Trying to get to max level atm. I can't really say what my favorite style is though. I like alot of them. If they'd let us put three different styles on a secondary katana, I'd by using 6 katana styles lol

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Key_Preparation1871 [OP]

The crimson night triggers panic????

Edit: it was crimson light lol

Magilas

It’s a really strong stance but also easy to mess up. Like the others have been saying, you gotta crack the timing on the Counterspark because it does change your position, which could throw you off.

JayAkeemtheProfit

No testing to confirm but through my personal experience Gekkei is really ki heavy. Seems like the moves drain way more of your ki. The counterspark alone is a teleport and all the moves are the coolest in the game. 😱 I've found to get the most out of this style and to keep your combos going you have to load your gear with ki recovery violet gale, ki recovery rate, and ki recovery blade flash.

Key_Preparation1871 [OP]

Yeah, I got that impression too. The moves are cool af. I mean it's not like it's bad or anything, I just feel like it's not 'clicking' with me yet. And ironically, my gear is already ki recovery heavy lol.

JayAkeemtheProfit

Yeah I wanted to love Gekkei so much and I loved that even if I mistimed a counter spark, I was behind the enemy and could recover but it's not worth banking on being low on ki after getting a combo off and risk being out of stamina after a kit or block. 😔