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I'm happy that's helping! this clip is definitely more consistent, I'm not hearing any tension in the voicing at all as well.

"It's like as soon as I go smaller the fry increases"

Yep that's also partly because of the increased vocal fold adduction when we bring the larynx higher, it's nothing you won't manage with time though :)

well, when we feminize the vocal folds come closer together as the larynx moves up higher, if you're dealing with a lot of mucus down on a bigger size/lower larynx it's going to feel more challenging when you get small/raise your larynx, staying out of vocal fry is a way to keep the vocal folds away from being close to each other but I wouldn't think that it would cause the mucus.

as for 'darkening' the voice I wouldn't think of the vocal fry doing that either, the vocal tract is a power - source - filter system, the power comes from the lungs, the source is whatever is vibrating and the filter is the vocal tract itself

(I'm sorry there's no easy way to explain this succinctly but) Vocal fry is considered a source behavior and although the source and the filter CAN affect each other, fry doesn't have that type of [darkening] effect. the only way I can think of fry causing a 'darkening' is through subharmonics which make us perceive the pitch lower than it is but that's kind of rare to stumble onto randomly and it's more-so on the source layer still.

It is possible that I'm hung up on semantics or something is being lost in translation.

" Something I'm noticing is that focussing on getting rid of fry, makes it harder for me to at the same time feminize my voice."

Is this a overwhelming our mental focus issue? is it a coordination issue? is there a separate thing that happens when you remove the vocal fry that is making it difficult to feminize?

I can't answer those questions without hearing more of your voice and it's not my place for that.

my one piece of advice is: vocal fry only happens when we're relaxed so it's useful now and then to dip into as a benchmark of sorts.

1. Turbulence is the chaotic passage of air cause by narrow openings in the vocal tract; it can happen at the glottal (vocal folds and false vocal folds) level or with the tongue if it's creating a very narrow passage.

some of it in your clip is being caused by the H consonant itself which necessitates use of the FVF but there's still a persistent level of noise that you can clear up!

1. Size scaling refers to scaling the vocal tract size, when the vocal tract is bigger it amplifies lower frequencies in sound, when it's smaller it amplifies the higher ones.
   

not to make assumptions but you might be more familiar with this being called larynx scaling/R1 scaling/resonance scaling. each one of these names has it's own pitfall but I'm not going to go into that right here.

1. For consistency I can't think of any videos that I have seen but for turbulence in sound I recommend this one https://youtu.be/xdsaPJdU24s

don't hesitate to ask questions if you still need help <3

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There's some strain, turbulence and tongue distortion happening on the size scaling, make sure whenever you scale your size that it feels easy, relaxed and not too irregular from normal speech

On the counting after you can hear the pitch drop on three , the voicing after the counting didn't keep as small of a size but it did sound relatively more relaxed

Overall for 1 month this is amazing, just have to be more consistent with keeping your size after and work on removing strain from your sound.

and of course, feel free to ask any follow up questions <3

Hey Emma, it's complicated*, fry itself is not a bad quality to be in, in fact it's a very relaxed vocal quality, I don't want to overstep but I want to ask if it's something you're avoiding because you dislike it stylistically or for any other reason?

The one big issue you're having right now is the weight getting a lot heavier on downward intonations and pitch drops like the one happening at 00:25, usually when non-T exposed voices fall down in pitch they run into breathiness or fry as they get lower, having the weight increase on downwards intonations is the result of the vocal folds remaining balanced in closure (and habituation)

other than that you're doing great with size, it's slightly butchy to my ears, some nasality in tone but that's more stylistic instead of being a gendered quality

*: I can see some valid reasons out of wanting to avoid vocal fry like trying to stay away from lower pitches, in that case your mental focus should be on remaining light AND balanced in closure, it's a bit beyond the scope of a single comment so please feel free to ask any follow up questions <3

Sorry for the SUPER late reply, although aussie voices can sound both twangy and nasal at times, I think a reduction is vocal weight might be a good thing to go for there!

Hey there, Your weight/Open quotient is exemplary, Your sizing is ever so slightly dark but that's up in preference territory at this point

-Jana (Scinguistics and PVS)

Hey there
perceptually I'd use the word slightly underfull to describe it, that's a popular descriptor that means your weight (or closed quotient to use the mechanical descriptor) is lower than what your vocal sizing can hold, resulting in an *underfull sound*, analogously you can think of twang as being the polar opposite of your current voicing.

That being said I'm hearing your mouth size/embouchure be bigger, that's what's contributing to the underfull sound, how you feel about it is up to you but personally I think it's an absolutely lovely quality.
-Jana (Scinguistics and Possum Vocal Studios)

Hi, Scinguistics teach here, Your voice is in a really good spot, you got nice pitch variation, the vocal fry indicates that you're speaking comfortably, even being able to hold that fry up high in pitch is a good sign, I'm curious what getting the voice to be more 'sweet' means to you (and not just because of my name lol)

my advice is to play around with the quotient/weight and larynx/sizing a bit more, see what you like more and what influences your sound positively because as a baseline this is already great and where to take it stylistically depends on your preference :)
-Jana

Hey I hear you, vocal training can be short-hand hell sometimes, when people talk about not singing from your throat, they're simply talking about using better breath support.

Singing on key/pitch is a different goal but having proper breath support always helps because the voice is incredibly holistic.

About the strain, you shouldn't feel strain to control pitch or on any part of singing for that matter.

feel free to ask any follow up questions and best of luck if you do further research on your own <3

Honestly this is what I aspire for in a spring dish presentation. Stunning!

What kind of oil did you use for the consommé to get the green color?

Overall great!

As others said the pitch can be off slightly.

What i would encourage exploring:

• Starting the song with a softer onset, yours started a bit too harsh and fast paced for this song imo

• Your tone is nasal which is something i never hear on this song, if you want a more typical style of the song aim for a homeonasal or hyponasal sound but if not, that's completely valid! chase your own sound dude :)