PSA: Extracting missions items in platoons

THE BUG

Since the release of DMZ, there has been a bug where the game will only check a maximum of 3 backpacks (chosen at random AFAICS) from your squad per exfil chopper/elevator.

If you’re in a squad of 3 or less, this will never affect you. But if there are 4 or more people in your squad, then at least one of the backpacks won’t get checked at exfil.

This can affect: missions items required for extraction, the weapons case, missions that require your backpack to be full, missions that require you to extract a weapon, etc.

WORKAROUND

To overcome this bug, your squad will need to use multiple exfil choppers/elevators to extract. As long as there are no more than 3 people from your squad per exfil chopper/elevator, everyone’s backpack will get checked. Just make sure that party leaders don’t pull entire squads out until everyone has fully extracted.

FAQ

Does it matter who joins which squad in terms of triggering the bug? No. Which squad joined who, which people you loaded into the game with, who pleaded vs who was invited, etc., don’t affect the bug. It’s simply 3 backpacks chosen at random to be checked, from the current people in your squad. So if 4 people from the squad extract on the same chopper/elevator, one backpack won’t get checked. If 5 people from the squad extract on the same chopper/elevator, then two backpacks won’t get checked, etc.

I extracted in a squad of 4 or more on the same chopper/elevator, and the stuff I needed to extract still correctly counted for me. Why? Three backpacks (chosen at random AFAICS) per chopper/elevator will still get checked each time. The larger your platoon, the higher the chances that a particular backpack will get skipped though.

Do enemy operators on a exfil chopper/elevator matter? In previous (much older) testing they didn’t, but at least one person has reported that it was an issue for them recently. Further testing is required.

Do personal exfils, hostage rescues, or the heavy chopper exfil change this? No. They all work exactly the same way for the purposes of this bug.

How can the squad be split up at exfil to still have everything definitely work? Anyone from your squad who needs their backpack contents to count must go out on an exfil with 3 people from to squad (or less) on it. So the safest way, especially now that the wallet exists and nearly everyone will want to have their backpack checked at every extraction, is just to do no more than 3 per chopper/elevator. That way every backpack will always get checked.

But technically if you have 4 or more people from your squad who don’t need to have their backpack counted for anything, then those people can all go out together, since it doesn’t matter if some of their backpacks don’t get checked. So if you were in a squad of 6 extracting a weapons case, and nobody else cared about having their backpacks checked, you could put the person carrying the weapons case out first on their own chopper/elevator, and the other 5 people from your squad could go out on a second chopper/elevator together, and the weapons case will still count for everyone.

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Higgs1

God this needs to be fixed asap lol

tk427aj

Yup forgot about the bug had a GPU in my bag didn't count 🖕🖕🖕fix your dam COD

Jelleeebean

The same thing happened to me today with 3 GPUs from the weapon lockers in Ashika.... I share this sentiment and they still have not fixed this

INeedAboutThreeFitty

I just found out about this after my GPU did not register as well. Thought it was a random bug.

VehicleAutomatic

Same here, had 2 GPUs, 2 gold bars, amongst multiple other things and nothing counted

stonkfail

Wow super helpful! Thx. Didn't complete several things because of this.

endlessflood [OP]

Thanks! Yeah I’ve posted this info (in an abridged version!) about fifty times in response to upset people here (trying to figure out why their stuff didn’t count).

Figured it was time to put it in one place so I could just paste a link in future 😁

FoxtrotWT

Really appreciate it. Noticed something was going on last night, taking multiple exfils is a must it seems.

g0stsec

I fucking knew it!.

Please PIN this post.

Rickety-Cricket87

Pathetic, glitches galore, will be next cod before they fix this shit

endlessflood [OP]

This bug has been in the game since day 1, so either they don’t know about it, or they can’t figure out how to fix it.

tk427aj

No chance this has been since day one. I've extracted weapon cases with more than 3 no issues. Only this season have I seen the issue of no progress with larger than 3. Lost out on 2 weapon cases and insured slot progression because of shit like this.

endlessflood [OP]

It has been like this since day 1 unfortunately.

tk427aj

Can't be, I've done all of Ashika Island, Al Mazrah, and Koschei complex weapon cases lots of them in squads bigger than 3 and everyone has gotten weapon case progress. This is the first time I've seen this bug come up and it has shown on both of the times I extracted the weapon case. This is not a day one bug. Nobody has complained about weapon cases not progressing since day 1

endlessflood [OP]

The second question in the FAQ section explains it.

tk427aj

I've read your faq, been playing since day 1 and up to this point, this is the first I'm hearing of this issue, ie I'm questioning how you know this bug has been around since day 1 of DMZ

endlessflood [OP]

I‘ve been playing in large squads with my friends since day 1, and when some of the missions to extract things would be really unreliable when we were in large squads, but reliable when we were in regular size squads, we started testing to see what the problem might be.

The inconsistent results really puzzled us at first. Then we noticed that 3 of the people would have it work for them, and it was always 3 people. At first we thought it was down to how the squad assimilation happened, so we tried various invites, requests, pleas, etc., but there didn’t seem to be any pattern.

When we tested going out on separate choppers in groups of 3, suddenly the item extractions always worked again. We noticed that it didn’t matter how the two groups were split up, just that it was a maximum of 3 per chopper. So we started using that technique whenever we were in a squad of more than 3 with mission items to extract, and it worked 100% of the time.

As to how the 3 backpacks that get checked are chosen by the game, we could never find any kind of pattern in our testing, so we assume it’s simply random.

As to why it’s suddenly a big issue: once they introduced the ability for fully downed squads to still plead (including solos), we noticed a big uptick in the number of larger squads rolling around. And now with the season 4 update, suddenly nearly every single person in the game is trying to extract things for missions in every single match (thanks to the mission reset and new upgrade requirements), so it’s a problem that more and more people are running into.

th3rdeye_

Makes me wonder if they truly intended on assimilation. I can’t remember reading about 6 man’s being a possibility… kind of just stumbled across it in game, then it snowballing into what it is (or was) today.

Or… I could’ve missed the mention of assimilation entirely

ToddHoward4President

Either there is another bug that doesn't register what you extracted or spectators get their bag checked again for some reason. I extracted from ashika last night while part of a six man 3 left on one chopper and me and my 2 friends left on finale, it didn't count the 4 dog tags my last gun oil I needed or the IFAK I had. One of the 3 that left before us stayed in game and spectated us so maybe it counted his bag again or there's another bug to add to the massive pile.

Lykan_

This is a feature. 6 man should get disadvantages.

endlessflood [OP]

It affects any squad which picks someone up who want to extract anything. And with the FOB and new missions, everyone wants to extract stuff right now.

So if you’re a solo who gets downed, pleads, and then gets picked up by a squad, then it affects you, because you’re now in a platoon (4 operators or more).

endlessflood [OP]

I notice that the Trello entry below might be referring to this problem, although it’s kind of vague in its description, and it’s now marked as “resolved.”

Now this wouldn’t be the first time that they said they’ve fixed something that definitely isn’t fixed, and it’s weird that there was no mention of it in any patch notes AFAICS, but in some very rudimentary testing last night, I think they might have finally fixed this issue.

Some more testing is needed, but fingers crossed.

https://trello.com/c/otB6vwr5/268-we-are-investigating-reports-of-assimilated-squads-of-4-6-players-not-all-receiving-credit-for-faction-mission-progress-or-compl

sprayznprayz

I assume if it’s final exfil you’re sh1t outta luck if you’re in a team over 3?

ThanksGamestop

Or buy a personal and split it if necessary

endlessflood [OP]

Pretty much. Only 3 backpacks will get checked, so just hope yours (or whoever is carrying the important stuff) is one of the ones I guess.

ConfusedCaptain

Idk man. I've been in 3 man squads and none of my items count towards upgrades. And anytime I take a personal, final exfil, or hostage exfil none of my items will count. Even when I was solo I had items not count when I extracted.

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My gpu’s reset at 3 collected.. I’ve also had them disappear on solo exfils

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endlessflood [OP]

There certainly may be other bugs in the game as well, especially when the servers are a bit flakey. But in 800+ extractions, the only time this hasn’t worked for me is when my game has crashed during exfil or the entire server has turned into a slideshow.

ClawTheDragovin

It does matter apparently because i exfilled with an enemy squad and my backpack didn't get checked.

endlessflood [OP]

Interesting. I haven’t tested the ‘enemy exfils on the chopper’ for a long time, but it previously worked without any issues.

What was it that didn’t get checked? Was it an encrypted hard drive, 3 plate carrier, or armour box by any chance?

ClawTheDragovin

It was a lot of small items for upgrades. Jumper cables, gpu, car batteries and a lot more. I was stacked for upgrades.

endlessflood [OP]

As a solo you got on a chopper with 3 or more enemy players, carrying a GPU? You’re a braver man than me.

ClawTheDragovin

As a solo i encountered a six man who let me pop on without turning back or dropping my guns

endlessflood [OP]

Thanks for posting. I’ve updated that section of the OP and will do some further testing when I get a chance.

ClawTheDragovin

Glad to be of help. Hopefully the results are conclusive.

tobi_habbakuk_

I had 3 GPUs from the ashika weapons locker and none counted :(

mrlondon_ncb

Can’t believe they haven’t fixed this bug.

Thanks, this is still a big as just extracted a gold skull and didn’t count it. Driving me mad thinking I’d dropped in somehow. Good to know it wasn’t me going mad.

endlessflood [OP]

I thought they had fixed it, back in August. They certainly reported that in Trello.

Maybe they accidentally reverted the fix (wouldn’t be the first time that’s happened due to their poor version control)? Or maybe you did actually accidentally drop it?

mrlondon_ncb

I was sure I got on the exfil with it, but checked my update and hadn’t counted.

Thought I was going nuts, I’ve noticed other odd things disappearing from my back pack recently too. Went to a buy station and bought armour, then noticed two IFAK (mission items) just disappeared during the purchase of the armour.

Very odd.

endlessflood [OP]

I know that keys are getting deleted at exfil as well now (but that bug is obviously unrelated to this platoon backpacks one).

mrlondon_ncb

Guess they are playing whack-a-mole with the current bugs and, with the new COD launching, choosing what to fix and what’s not worth the effort.

Let’s see the state of the new COD when it launches…

mrbeiramar

I noticed something today. I'm extracting acetones and cephalexin. My acetone count was 04/07. I've extracted one acetone with a secured backpack, and still was 04/07. I've extracted again, my count was 06/07

mrlondon_ncb

I went to a buy station in Vondel yesterday, purchased armour plates and after the purchase 4 of the 5 bottles of water I was carrying had disappeared.

Didn’t sell anything, they just vanished.

I’m assuming there’s some buy station bug happening as I’ve noticed other items from my backpack disappear after visiting a buy station.