BG - How to describe this?

BG - How to describe this?

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GatorUSMC

Looks like chain lightning needs nerfed again.

Kiu88

Geared hunters dominate low level bgs, this and more as we cover this 21 year old news story at eleven!

Nethias25

Yep, high range, very little cast bars, most of damage can be done on the move or with short stops, no one has mounts to run direct to Hunter. It's a shooting gallery.

External-Presence204

Pets continuing to maul people even if the hunter has to retreat.

InvisibleZero420

mounts

This one is so freaking huge. Like the SOLE reason they dominate low levels. Being able to outrun, nearly everyone, is incredibly powerful, and as a kiting class, it is EVERYTHING.

Nethias25

Yep, Hunter gameplay changes when a warrior can ride up to you and charge/hamstring as your health bar vanishes and you are applying wing clip or a trap that immediately breaks because someone else attacks that warrior and you get smashed.

themagicbandicoot

I played a lot of 19 twinks as a frost mage and a Druid flag carrier and hunter absolutely dominated there and the 29s, always been this way, not enough classes have the ability to close/escape yet. However I’ve never understood why they can’t be tuned down a little pre 60 when it’s so obvious, like just nerf their lower rank skills damage, nerf their pet dps, etc. Hunters seem to dominate dungeon dps at low levels too (although it’s hard to say what’s in-built vs beta gearing) unless heavy aoe is involved. 

Kiu88

because their damage isn't the problem, the other guys ability to catch up to them is. the best way to balance low level hunters is giving classes their gap closers (and mounts) earlier.

ElectricRinku

I would describe it as typical low level pvp.

dchun31

I think we've seen enough, its time to nerf Elementals

EffectiveSwimming136

Strong low level pvp class is strong in low level pvp, who knew?

Bossmonkey

You're right, time to nerf hunters at max level because of twinked level 30s /s

Seems fine to me. Twinks gonna twink.

Ethersix

Blizzard had to cut Penance damage in half, since dealing 300 damage over 2 seconds on a 12-second cooldown was just too strong. ( back to wanding gameplay )

Wouldn’t be surprised if more nerfs are coming before the beta ends.

grasswhistle28

Yet a dozen “delete icelance!” Posts get upvoted to the top of the sub every day for the same reason

Vayne_Mechanics

It’s cause Ice Lance numbers as they stand will likely be a concern at 60 as well (for PvP).

Ice Lance max rank does a base average of 152. Its usual coefficient in different versions is like 15%. At level 60 in MC gear a mage had around 650 spell damage. 650 times 0.15 plus 152 is 250 rounded.

250 that basically is a guaranteed crit (on a frozen target), so 250 times 2.5 is 625. 625 times the 4x multiplier on a frozen target is 2500 damage on an instant cast.

Unless stamina on gear is super inflated from classic numbers, mages will be 2 shotting everyone with Ice Lance at 60.

So I don’t think the communities concern around the balancing of this spell is misplaced.

rizo36

then adress it at 60 crying to the wolves right now will just fuck specs and class up in the long run ( sod bm hunters) .... stop hyper focus on shit that wont happen on release

ThePlower27

Said the mage hahaha I can’t anymore

Healthy_Kawk

Unless Ice Lance keeps dealing exact same damage at 60 it is overtuned

Fun_Clock_4883

hunters already are, we will bring 1 hunter to pull mobs to the raid, like always

mrrogers911

I think it's a combination of geared hunters typically being strong in lower level BGs and also there's not much to do but twink and pvp given the level cap.

gotDEADphishWoWguy

0/7 Legolas is fucking crazy

buckylou

This only shows they're strong at low levels.

What people don't realize is just how insanely strong extra max range is in pvp. Hunters are going to be a menace with sniper shot blowing people up without the hunters nameplate even showing.

LADR_Official

tbh I find the stupid first+last names to be more offensive than the # of hunters

Alejinh

Part of the ‘journey’ also ‘hybrid tax’, response: nerf dungeon exp

Own_Disaster_4747

When a hunter shoots at a target, he has no problems with dodge and parry. any melee miss dodge miss parry parry die, go again

Sorrowful_Panda

I was told by reddit that mages are dominating pvp.....surely they will dominate the tournament and bgs then huh

Randvek

Mages are very solid 1v1 but that doesn't necessarily translate over to BGs.

BigSwing_NoPace

As nature intended.

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kuai_

God damn first and last names suck ass

Vlisa

Has low level PvP been balanced in any expansion ever?

LADR_Official

Has PvP been balanced in any expansion ever?

XxMathematicxX

I keep seeing posts in this classic sub about bg diversity lacking. I don’t actually think a lot of y’all played vanilla. It was solely rogues and hunters. I think a lot of people forgot what “twink” was back then. I have old videos I made and it’s literally just seas of rogues and hunters and every now and then a tank twink for fc

Magnon

Describe hunters doing damage?

SpartanVFL

Some of yall never played classic and it shows