The Rapper and the Content Creator, the Gooners and the Goths

"Boil away the tiresome debates about subcultural legitimacy and the cringeworthy, Carry On Goth style titillation, this is all about tremendous amounts of online engagement and daunting amounts of money changing hands."

Sharing my article on the saga of Drake and Pinkchyu, and the wider context - the individuals and organisations making money off these interminable debates.

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Unreal_Alexander

I have never seen bigger posers in my life than these "performative awkwardness" tiktok grifters.

Edit: I wanted to put it into words: this isn't about gatekeeping, we all know that's bullshit, this is something else. This is the commodification of a subculture and the women in it. No one involved in this is here to give to the culture, only profit from it.

DeadDeathrocker

Hotel Transylvania cosplayers

Orchid49

lol 😂 I literally lol at this!

Toxaplume045

I hate it too because it's definitely resulting in more non goth dudes showing up at clubs and stuff chasing them and becoming everyone's problem. I've seen this so god damn much at the Boston events and seeing it more in surrounding places too. It's just fetish fuel for gooner dudes so now we have a bunch of zoomers in basketball jerseys showing up to look for goth women.

Have been approached and harassed by these dudes multiple times now in recent months.

welt_schmerz16

It’s so fucking bad around me too. I went to go out last week and when I drove by the bar there was a fucking herd of them blocking the entrance and sidewalk.

Jeans, flip flops, pastel shirts, and zero inclination towards any vaguely goth aesthetic. I know it’s about the music, I dress very subdued for work, but you can spot these people from a mile off. Not there for the show, not there to hang with friends and dance, they’re there to be creeps. There are dozens of bars in the area that cater to young fratlings and their ilk.

I didn’t even park, I went up the road to an indie show at a bar/club that’s more dive themed instead. Not paying a cover to have some kid half my age ask me to be his goth mommy.

I carry a knife and pepper spray and haven’t used either but I have FORCEFULLY stopped a couple from touching me.

I will note that the first venue I intended to visit is decent about dealing with them, but they’re there to make money at the end of the night.

ADanceofBats

worst of all is humouring that pedophile for clout and cash, beyond crazy.

TheTerribleRiver

thank you... like be a poser, I don't care, I'm not a gatekeeper... but the fact this guy is a pedo and now trying to be goth as a schtick... it feels like he's trying to cover up the stain of his existence by being something he's not... don't get me wrong, these music circles are all one in the same at a certain level and they're all insanely educated on every genre when they're that big (long story short, I met one of the most famous wrappers of all time and my cousin was a musician with an orchestra at the time and the rapper regaled us with all his knowledge of classical music, it was amazing)... but that's not what this is... this is like when celebrities shockingly change their color to distract you from a nose job or when trump does just about anything... to distract us from epstien.

this asshole just picked mall goth for his distraction. whatever distraction he uses next, I'm gonna go be pissed for them, too.

and like, i assume he went in this direction cos it's not cute and colorful, which would make him look more pedo-esque... but like mall goth on a middle aged man is coming off the same way to me... like isn't mall goth for the kids?

edit: I was using someone else's computer when I typed the message and I'm not used to their keyboard and my shit is riddled with typos. I mean "hair color" re: the nose job statement. Still using someone else's computer btw. I should just start taking portable keyboards with me... this thing is so loud, too... so loud. and why are the keys so tall? like it takes forever just to push on one.

darlingcthulhu

Honestly it reminds me of back in my teenage days when I was very into the emo subculture and I met more than one emo guy in his 20s that specifically preyed on young emo girls, one of them actually went to prison and the police tracked me down because they went through school year book photos and interviewed all of us. We all knew him. From my experience men (and women on occasion) use darker subcultures to prey on vulnerable people, and I know it could happen to anyone but its really disheartening to see the amount of abusers who go for the people they see as broken. Drake is no different. What Pinkychu (idk if I spelt that right) does and the conversation on posing aside, he's 40 and she's 23. No he's not a pedophile for that but honestly he's not helping himself when it comes to the accusations

ADanceofBats

honestly that’s just disturbing.

AmarissaBhaneboar

Oof yeah, I was just saying in another comment that I almost feel bad for this Pinkychu girl. It's obvious that she's young and she needs some help and support. And she's being taken advantage of by the men around her. This isn't to say that she has no agency, but the few things I've seen about her or around her, it really does seem like she's being taken advantage of.

ADanceofBats

he’s using the fact people clowned on him as some sort of barrier. the harder the people laugh they tend to forget why we started pointing fingers at this guy in the first place. which tells me he’d do about anything to make people forget. absolute clown.

AA_Crowes

Would the rapper happen to be Nas?

aytakk

Cheers for taking one for the team to watch and describe it so we don't have to feed that awful video a view.

TheBloggingGoth [OP]

It's stomach turning. All their content is.

Lord_Dagger

Saw the videos pop up on my FB a couple of times and it made me cringe and very nauseous 🤢 🤮

TheBloggingGoth [OP]

Had the same feeling even second hand watching Black Friday or Angela Benedict reviewing them

AmarissaBhaneboar

Angela Benedict's video was the first one I saw and ever since then, this Pinkychu girl has been haunting me 😭 why do we have to commodify everything, man? Why can't we just be left alone?

double_eyelid

Great post. We are all diminished for interacting with this, indeed.

TheBloggingGoth [OP]

Very kind, thank you

Kadavrozia

Tell them to take it back to the store because what they're serving is fake as fuck.

amillionbadwords

It’s a passing fad.

CartographerOk5391

Problem is, I'm trying to ignore it and it just gets worse.

amillionbadwords

“The empty can rattles the most” don’t let it bug you

TheBloggingGoth [OP]

But very big now and who knows for how long

amillionbadwords

You’ll see. Give the internet a few weeks until October hits. Hundreds of articles across all social media will appear telling girls to “get in touch with their inner witchy side”. They’ll post some casual ass pics of black turtlenecks and tall boots and black lipstick and maybe a witch hat with maybe some link to how to make ghost or jack o lantern cookies and then they’ll fuck off again November 1st. Everyone needs to calm down. There’s nothing to see here. It’s the same with pseudo goth fashion having a resurgence every 7-10 years because all the faddish styles have run their course or gone underground until it’s time for them to resurface like locusts. Take a breath. Have a picnic in a graveyard. Listen to some Bauhaus. Contemplate your misery. Buy a hearse because they’re cool

AmarissaBhaneboar

I swear to God, this Pinkychu or whatever person has become my sleep paralysis demon. I don't go looking her up, but she keeps appearing on my feeds and it's driving me nuts 😭😭 I didn't even know who she was until I watched a video about the OF e girls thing. I feel kind of bad for her, honestly. She obviously doesn't have anyone around her supporting her. It sucks to see :/ she needs some help.

KrispyGoth

I don't really think being authentically goth is congruent with being very online period. Because really by feeding engagement for people to profit off of us outside of the scene (social media companies) we are really doing a very similar thing as people like that girl. Its consenting to our own dehumanization while pretending not to for some sort of benefit or compensation (dopamine instead of currency).

As someone born into the Internet age, I understand how hard it is to detach, but we really all need to.

CartographerOk5391

Drake is doubling down on the colonizer and pdf allegations.

Crease_Greaser

Just copy and paste the article here. Otherwise you’re just monetizing this for yourself.

TheBloggingGoth [OP]

I'm... Sorry? Monetising it how?

Crease_Greaser

Your blog isnt monetized? You’re just writing about Drake for the love of it?

TheBloggingGoth [OP]

I have a Patreon but you're under no obligation to support me.

I love the goth scene, and I trained as a journalist years ago. I sincerely do this for enjoyment!