Hitler is a popular muggle analogy for Voldemort - but that comparison really undersells the terror Voldemort induced.

Voldemort has long been comparted to Hitler - Magical Hitler, Wizarding Hitler, etc. Voldemort and Hitler share many qualities: they both purport to be concerned for the dilution of "pure" race, they are both power hungry, and both lead organisations intent on persecuting those they deemed lesser. The comparison between Voldemort and Hitler has, clearly, real merit.

However, the two differ in a very important way. Hitler was at the head of a apparatus that waged war on the world - but he himself was not that apparatus. He did not fire a weapon on the front line, or sail a U-boat, or pilot a bomber. He was not personally responsible for almost any of the deaths that made up WW2, though he of course rightly assumes much of the blame for them. During WW2, Hitler must have been hated and reviled by those he sought to destroy but very few people personally feared him; people feared the German war machine in general but no one (to my knowledge) speaks of a deep, personal fear of Hitler himself.

Voldemort, in many ways, WAS the war machine that sought to uproot wizarding society. People feared the death eaters and werewolves and the giants - but they also feared Voldemort the individual. Magic allows for one man to personally affect a conflict on level impossible in our world. No one needed to fear that speaking Hitler's name would bring a missile down onto their heads. However, that was a very real fear during the wars Voldemort waged. Wizards and witches personally knew people - friends and family - that were killed by Voldemort himself! He was everywhere, they couldn't step out of their front door without checking the proverbial peephole first.

I think that this personalisation that Voldemort brought to his conflicts made him an altogether different beast from Hitler. For all of Hitler's evils, he was but a man. Voldemort, through his ruthlessness and personal touch, was something more.

For me, Voldemort is much closer to the Devil or any archetypal Boogeyman than he is to Hitler - and I think that this view fits with the themes and plot of the series. Voldemort was desperate to prove to everyone that he was more than a man and everyone believed him (except Dumbledore and a few others). At the culmination of the story, when Voldemort has everything he ever wanted in his grasp, Harry shows the world that Voldemort is indeed a man, and that he can die like one.

Thanks for reading, please let me know what you think.

EDIT: People are perhaps misunderstanding my point. I am not comparing the overall damage that each were responsible for. Clearly, WW2 involved many more people and many more atrocities than the wizarding wars. I do not think that that makes Hitler necessarily any more evil - he just had a more industrious war engine under him. I comparing the impressions that the people affected in the war had of Hitler and Voldemort and am saying that Voldemort was personally feared to a supernatural degree whilst Hitler was not.

EDIT 2: I think it should be clear in my post that I do not mean to compare the two, I am merely reacting to a comparison I have seen often in the fandom. I do not think it is fair to say that just because Voldemort isn't real and Hitler is that they can't be compared - the point of fiction is that we take the themes presented seriously and explore them.

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leandroizoton

Voldemort brought terror to what? 10-20 thousand wizards living in Britain?

Are you honestly comparing to the atrocities Hitler did and affect hundreds of millions of people, directly caused the death of 50 millions and who knows how many more indirectly caused by it? Because Hitler don’t know how to wave a wand?

Seriously, drop the fiction book and go read History ones, watch a couple documentaries, see the testimony of those who lived that terror and you’ll see how close minded and disrespectful it is you saying Voldemort was worse.

Zephrok [OP]

See my edit.

leandroizoton

Your title clearly states that comparing Voldemort with Hitler UNDERSELLS the terror Voldemort induced.

If that’s really what you think, my comment remains word by word. Go read a book and stop being thick. If you don’t think that’s true and just poorly phrased that, you can delete the post and try again with more fortunate words.

But again, your whole point was that Voldemort was scarier because Hitler can’t wave a wand. That’s absurd and if you really think Hitler wasn’t feared to a “supernatural” degree, I’ll tell you some news: for those who lived it, I’m sure Hitler was no less than the Devil himself; he was the Boogeyman of generations, he was the evil incarnate. Voldemort was none of that.

But feel free to act a fool. I’m done

Zephrok [OP]

Fair enough, you clearly know more than I about the impression that WW2 survivors had of Hitler.

I'll read up on it more.

Thejerseygrl

Please do. Read about tbe holocaust. It really disturbs me that it seems like this history is getting lost, If you truly do not understand how terrifying hitler was. Read about the concentration camps, the gas chambers, the ovens, the campaign to exterminate the Jewish people of Europe. Seriously. Read.

Zephrok [OP]

I did not mean to misrepresent the horrors of WW2. I am well aware of evils done to those persecuted by the Nazis and in no way endorse them. I thought dissecting the comparison between the two would be interesting.

Thejerseygrl

I’m really not sure if you are. This is a very personal issue for me and for many others. I grew up with this aura of terror that still ruled over everything about my family dynamic. Being the grandchild of holocaust survivors is quite the experience. And honestly, if I’m telling you how upsetting and insulting this post is, please believe me.

88Problems88

You are looking way too far into it. Its not that serious. You are seriously comparing a book character to maybe the worst human to ever live.

SituationSmart5214

Exactly!

Da_Professa

Jewish people definitely feared Hitler…and he still scares Jewish kids/adults today.

Motanul_Negru

Nah. It's not even close, despite Voldemort having magic.

Hitler had something 'better': armies. Plural. Some of the most powerful in the world at the time, no less, and they racked up an 8-digit kill count.

In fact, I'm reasonably sure Voldemort was outdone by anyone who rose to division command or higher in the Wehrmacht and SS under Hitler. That's somewhere in the low to mid hundreds of men.

The one big thing Voldemort managed that Hitler never did was the fear of the name thing, which Hitler obviously never tried for.

Zephrok [OP]

See my edit.

HoraceCat

Please don’t compare a fictional character to a real human who was responsible for the murder of millions. It belittles the significance of the atrocities of the holocaust.

Zephrok [OP]

I think it should be clear in my post that I do not mean to compare the two, I am merely reacting to a comparison I have seen often in the fandom. I do not think it is fair to say that just because Voldemort isn't real and Hitler is that they can't be compared - the point of fiction is that we take the themes presented seriously and explore them.

Minidestroy100

Take a nap.

Rock_Successful

nah this ain’t it

Katttie

I’m extremely tired of people comparing people to Hitler and Nazis. It really makes light of WWII and the Holocaust and that’s not ohkay.

Zephrok [OP]

I think it should be clear in my post that I do not mean to compare the two, I am merely reacting to a comparison I have seen often in the fandom. I do not think it is fair to say that just because Voldemort isn't real and Hitler is that they can't be compared - the point of fiction is that we take the themes presented seriously and explore them.

MerchantMe333

I mean, that point is interesting, but there was a fear even of hitler and himmlers name - it was taboo in a lot of households. It’s taboo in mine lol. At the end of the day, this is one of those things you probably shouldn’t compare though. I wouldn’t be surprised if JKR specifically made Voldemort analogous to hitler, but posts of “hitler wasn’t worse than Voldemort bc XYZ” are diminishing the travesty that actually happened.

Zephrok [OP]

I didn't mean to diminish what happened during WW2. I just thought that magic brought a personal immediacy to Voldemort that didn't exist for Hitler. Interesting to hear that Hitler and Himmler were taboo in your household, I've never heard of that myself.

MerchantMe333

Yeah, that’s understandable. Even so though, although Voldemort could appear and kill you personally, I’m pretty sure it was always his death eaters that executed his will. He was off hunting for the fuckoff wand

Thejerseygrl

Is this a fucking joke??? Please tell that to my grandmother who lost 8 siblings and her parents in auschwitz and spent 4 years there to emerge on the other side like a breathing pile of bones. This post is making me nauseous. Please read some history.

Zephrok [OP]

Apologies for making you feel ill, that was not my intention. I just thought it was interesting that the fear that Voldemort inspired had basis in his personal martial abilities much moreso than for dictators in our lives.

TheCPMR

That's a really solid look at it.

Zephrok [OP]

Appreciated. The Hitler/Voldemort comparison always felt off for me so it's nice to get it into words.

New_Reflection_7366

I dis agree I think grindewald is more similar too hitler just think about it

Zephrok [OP]

I 100% agree that Grindelwald is a better analogy for Hitler, I have just noticed that the community often compare Voldemort and Hitler. Grindelwald waged war on the axis-adjacent side of WW2.

Smooth_Key_5836

People took this way too seriously. 🤦‍♀️

[deleted]

It's a good point, that people were actually afraid of what the man Voldemort could personally do to them, whereas Hitler may or may not have had any competence in actual combat. The Devil thing is a little off I think; it's not clear in the Christian Bible exactly how involved the Devil himself may be, but the first point is well taken.

Zephrok [OP]

You are right, by Devil I meant more any archetypal boogeyman.

JS112012

Not what I expected to see tonight on here you really touched a few nerves lmao

Zephrok [OP]

Indeed. I did not expect such an emotional response to my post.