Can someone explain this and what it is? Broke it open it was empty, looks like pyrite cube was in there but dissolved? Found in PA coal mine

Can someone explain this and what it is? Broke it open it was empty, looks like pyrite cube was in there but dissolved? Found in PA coal mine

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[deleted]

You're on the right track. That's an epimorph, a mineral cast of a mineral, where the original mineral dissolved away. In this case it was probably calcite.

[deleted]

That’s really interesting! I’m pretty casual on the rock collecting world, didn’t even know this was possible!

spartout

It was definitely pyrite rather than calcite. The shape matches the cubic shape of pyrite perfectly while i cant see any rhombic shapes which would indicate calcite.

[deleted]

Oh, it isn't calcite then, but it definitely isn't pyrite. Pyrite doesn't dissolve, so it would have to melt into acid, and I don't see any evidence of that happening, plus pennsylvania doesn't have perfect cubes that would cause something like this. Probably fluorite then.

DigDigDig11 [OP]

I've found plenty of perfect pyrite cubes here: https://youtu.be/2L6oRRrXJt0

spartout

Pyrite indeed doesnt dissolve at neutral pH conditions, however this doesn't eliminate it as an possibility, It doesnt take a strong acid at all to dissolve it given time which this has had plenty of .

DigDigDig11 [OP]

There's loads of pyrite in this coal mine, but not in spherical rocks. I've never found calcite there....just quartz crystals.

spartout

Thats quite the oddity, can you post a photo of the pyrite from the mine? Also does the mine have groundwater flowing? Because pyrite reacts with water forming iron hydroxides and sulfuric acid so if it has a lot of water that might explain how this piece dissolved away.

DigDigDig11 [OP]

Not really visibly flowing water, but the pyrite level is directly above the coal seam, and I find very colorful "peacock coal" there, which I believe occurs when water hits the pyrite level and seeps sulfides(?) into the coal.

DigDigDig11 [OP]

I posted a video(slideshow) of pyrites I found in the same mine above in the comments.

briancane

Yeah that yellowish staining could very well be what’s remaining of the pyrite turned into an acid

[deleted]

Damn that's probably one of the top 5 coolest rocks I've seen here.

Ithaca_Lapidary

I was thinking possibly fluorite.