u/Empole
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My guy. No clue how you keep up with this stuff. Apprecite you doing it a all. Cheers
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"Coming 2023" is the best we have at the moment.
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I've seen this game a bunch, but this is the first time I actually understood what the game was.
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I've been wanting Ala Bongdae back in the story for so long, and I'm hyped that he's been getting set up as the hero for this fight.
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It's kinda wild there's two "skateboarding but in hell" games on the horizon
Helskate and Skate Story
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That was a colossal waste of everyone's time huh
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The AMA’s done. I can’t see anything in Reddit’s AMA with CEO Steve Huffman about the API changes to indicate that it’s over, but Reddit spokesperson Tim Rathschmidt tells me that it’s done.
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How does this compare to https://github.com/filhodanuvem/gitql
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Hello Mr. Huffman. If you happen to engage with any of my questions, I would appreciate that you provide separate responses to the questions you address.
Why was Reddit's communication so poor?
- Reddit communicated this decision suddenly, with seemingly no prior discussion with those it would impact (developers, moderators, users with accessibility concerns)
- Reddit's communication has been disjoint across multiple subreddits. Updates largely brought little clarity, and provided unhelpful and/or contradictory information.
- It appears like Reddit has been wholly uninterested in engaging developers in good faith, to find a solution that allows them to continue business while allowing Reddit to capture value from the users those developers serve.
- In response to the visually impaired community loudly voicing that these changes would lock them out of Reddit (read. Articles were written to that effect), Reddit proceeded to... talk to the Verge? Instead of the communities that it would impact?
- Reddit has not publicly acknowledge what is likely thousands of subreddits that plan to go dark. But Reddit's own notes shared with their Council, Partner Communities and Developer Community state: "If people want to do this out of anger, we want to make sure they’re mad for accurate reasons, not over things that are untrue."
I highlight these points specifically, since they echo the 2015 blackout that led to hundreds of subreddits blacking out and resulted in Reddit's then CEO apologizing, later resigning and giving an interview where they attributed the protests to Reddit's miscommunications and not delivering on moderator tools.
"We need to do better" rings hollow when you need to do better on lessons learned nearly 10 years ago.
Not to say there weren't other issues with how this was messaged:
- Reddit's communication used the term "Third Party App" to mean "OAuth Application" instead of how it's broadly understood on Reddit to mean "an unofficial Reddit Client".
- etc...
Why was the timeline for these changes so aggressive?
There are less than 3 months separating the initial announcement on April 18th 2023 and start of enforcement on July 1st. It is exceedingly abnormal in healthy service<->developer relationships to ship a breaking change, especially one of this magnitude, on such a tight timeline.
- The Chrome Web Browser has been trying to migrate the entire ecosystem from Manifest v2 to Manifest v3, a change that like Reddit's API changes makes a class of extension un-viable, since 2020 and the migration is still ongoing.
- After Apple bought Dark Sky, consumers of the Dark Sky API were given an 18 month grace period which was later extended an additional 12 months.
Moving forward, why should any developer think it's worth investing their time and skills to build something for Reddit? Let it be on the Developer Platform, their own hosting, or a browser extension?
Software Development is a trade built on trust, and trust is the last thing Reddit has inspired as of late:
- Reddit appears fundamentally opposed to the idea of talented developers contributing to Reddit as a platform if their work is commercialized in any way.
- It has been appalling to see Reddit, from whatever level these folks are (admin in r/modnews, admin in r/redditdev) to (allegedly) the CEO of the company, publicly lambast Apollo which is built by a single person.
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Are they, uh..., not gonna give a time for the AMA?
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The Control Daemon
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RIP Summer Games Fest that's happening... tomorrow
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Linus and a couple other organizations have special contracts that that allow them to simulstream
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Astra buff next?
- Star placement is super imprecise, especially when there's overlapping geometry (e.g. the tunnel under B on Fracture, or the tunnel at B on pearl).
- The penalty for misplacing a star is massive, and compounds with the fact that you're out of commission when you place them.
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Nah, no worries. It's not a particularly intuitive part of Reddit, and you probably would never notice unless you spend time in communities where posts get downvoted a bunch.
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Huh?
All Reddit posts will bottom out at 0 points. Only comments can go negative.
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We’d love to hear your feedback on the current experience – let us know in the comments below.
Press X to Doubt
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Can you teach us some Korean terms that are used on the Korean Servers too?
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Would it be possible to comment on why the timeline for this has been so aggressive?
There are less than 3 months separating the initial announcement on April 18th 2023 and start of enforcement on July 1st.
It is exceedingly abnormal in healthy service<->developer relationships to ship a breaking change, especially one of this magnitude, on such a tight timeline.
For example, the Chrome Web Browser is currently trying to migrate their entire extension ecosystem from Manifest v2 to Manifest v3. This is a disruption similar in impact to Reddit's API changes, since many browser extensions will no longer be viable after this change is finalized. The Chrome Team publicized this effort back in 2020 and the migration is still ongoing. That's over 3 years vs this timeline at less than 3 months.
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I'm dissapointed in this FAQ. The questions responded to are largely straw-men of the legitimate concerns people have, and still leave the largest questions unaddressed.
It is still ambiguous whether moderators will be able to leverage 3rd party Reddit clients as moderation tools for example.
And if they break, we will work with you to fix them.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but this appears to directly contradict another admin from r/redditdev who refused to provide support to a developer and likened their refusal to how "Google & Amazon don’t tell us how to be more efficient. It’s up to us as users of these services to optimize our usage to meet our budget."
Reddit is also covering hosting for apps via the Developer Platform, which uses the Data API.
My understanding is that the Developer Platform has major usability issues for anything but the most trivial bots, and also largely has no migration path for existing services that weren't written in typescript.
Per one of the early beta testers:
When looking at the API, the way we get all of the information we need, we have access to a fairly large amount of information. The Developer Platform, while it has its uses, is not designed with large and busy bots in mind. It's much better suited for entry-level 'learning to code' style bots that we see frequently pop up on the site. Issues from data usage limits, data storage limits (500kb! Our database in Blossom is over 1.4GB), connecting to services outside reddit (which we have gotten special permissions for, I'll give them that), and more plague the development experience at the time of this writing.
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Reddit CTO Chris Slowe, /u/keysersosa, pitching these NSFW changes:
We’re doing this to improve safety, protect the privacy of redditors, and adhere to local regulations. As noted in the post, this is part of an ongoing effort to provide guardrails to how sexually explicit content and communities on Reddit are discovered and viewed.
Empole
Holy shit.
Seeing your comments across the site has always been a pleasure over the years.
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Can you sticky a link to this post over here? https://old.reddit.com/r/ModCoord/comments/140q08x/instructions_how_to_set_your_sub_to_private_on/
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Victor Wooten covered Isn't She Lovely on bass
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