u/Fryboy11

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You can thank the billionaires making sure healthcare is tied to employment for that. So its less passive acceptance and more do i want to keep my health insurance or go bankrupt because i fell down some stairs.

Medicare for all would save trillions but it would give people the confidence to stand up to unfair treatment so we can’t have that. 

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Yeah, they villainize it while sending their kids to elite boarding schools like Andover and Choate.

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I don't think it's racism as long as you don't be weird and fetishize it. Like how guys can like redheads or blondes, tall, or short. And girls can like tall statuesque guys or Dad bods, eye color hairstyle. etc. they're definitely the stereotype of girls liking hot Spanish guys and guys wanting the supermodel. But these are just a trait the person likes. Don't let it define the other person, get to know them to know them, and if your personalities click the trait is a small bonus compared to the person you click with liking you back.

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First, how is your calculus? That's the most basic level you'll need to master then you can see how those equations fit and transform through integration and derivatives.

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The flight experienced a cockpit  kerfuffle 

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Dentists are doctors by definition. Their official title is DDM instead of MD.  its doctor of dental medicine. 

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I think the GOP has a fund with 10x that amount. It’s alarming how often anti gay members of states or national congress are arrested for soliciting a male minor. One of the reps who introduced that stupid bill about trump derangement syndrome was arrested when he tried to meet up with a 15 year old girl. Luckily he met up with a female police officer because it was a sting. 

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That’s true for most airfields military or civilian. Just the sheer scale of the runways makes the fence perimeter like 10+ miles if you wanted to patrol it. 

In most cases a motion sensor or camera notes someone is too close to the fence, usually just aviation enthusiasts who like to film takeoffs and landings. But it pings security who just go out search the person and their car if it’s nearby. Unless you’re a repeat offender they just tell the person to stay 500 feet from the fence. Otherwise it’s a misdemeanor ticket with a fine. 

Certain sensitive military airfields have stricter penalties, but even Area 51 relies on sensors to detect people approaching. Because no one wants to patrol 20 miles of fence in the desert. Plus even with four patrols there would be 15 minutes between patrols assuming they’re in jeeps and travel 20 miles per hour over the desert terrain. 

But as plenty of journalists will tell you once you get within a mile two jeeps will come out  each with two heavily armed MPs. They’ll tell you to turn around because any closer and you enter the area where troops can use lethal force to stop them. And you don’t say no to four MPs in full kit when they say leave. 

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After the firms in China were found to be adding Melamine to baby formula, resulting in many deaths and kids with permanent kidney damage. China executed the executives, the lowly workers only got light punishment because they knew the order came from above.

Here it's the opposite, jail the minimum wage worker who would've been fired if they didn't listen to the executive's order to break the law. Also give those executives their severance package so they can move on to another company. Justice

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Only starting in 2024. That was when the Supreme Court ruled that any money left over from property seized and sold for tax purposes had to be given to the former property owner.

I just know that because I live in MN where the woman who sued was from, we didn't get much mention on the national stage back then, this administration has sure changed that.

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Wow, from your link.

Attorneys and advocates say. Such billing has been required under state law since 1967, and has been allowable since the 1930s (try that during the depression).

The practice has endured even though the state has passed laws in recent years preventing other government entities from charging big fees to vulnerable populations. One example: People leaving prisons and jails no longer have to pay for many of the costs of their incarceration.

So it's you assaulted this guy because he wouldn't give you his wallet, your free. You had a psychotic episode and assaulted someone, you're free but pay us for holding you which you couldn't consent to because the court committed you under reason of insanity.

Damn, I guess since prisons are state run and hospitals are private one has money to lobby.

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Damn, if that's true every Ohio State player must've actually killed someone on the field.

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You mean like that this.

CRAWFORDVILLE, Fla. — Early in the morning of March 10, 2003, after a raucous party that lasted into the small hours, a groggy and hungover 20-year-old named Ryan Holle lent his Chevrolet Metro to a friend. That decision, prosecutors later said, was tantamount to murder.

The friend used the car to drive three men to the Pensacola home of a marijuana dealer, aiming to steal a safe. The burglary turned violent, and one of the men killed the dealer’s 18-year-old daughter by beating her head in with a shotgun he found in the home.

Mr. Holle was a mile and a half away, but that did not matter.

He was convicted of murder under a distinctively American legal doctrine that makes accomplices as liable as the actual killer for murders committed during felonies like burglaries, rapes and robberies.

A prosecutor explained the theory to the jury at Mr. Holle’s trial in Pensacola in 2004. “No car, no crime,” said the prosecutor, David Rimmer. “No car, no consequences. No car, no murder.”

Most scholars trace the doctrine, which is an aspect of the felony murder rule, to English common law, but Parliament abolished it in 1957. The felony murder rule, which has many variations, generally broadens murder liability for participants in violent felonies in two ways. An unintended killing during a felony is considered murder under the rule. So is, as Mr. Holle learned, a killing by an accomplice.

India and other common law countries have followed England in abolishing the doctrine. In 1990, the Canadian Supreme Court did away with felony murder liability for accomplices, saying it violated “the principle that punishment must be proportionate to the moral blameworthiness of the offender.”

Countries outside the common law tradition agree. “The view in Europe,” said James Q. Whitman, a professor of comparative law at Yale, “is that we hold people responsible for their own acts and not the acts of others.”

But prosecutors and victims’ rights groups in the United States say that punishing accomplices as though they had been the actual killers is perfectly appropriate.

“The felony murder rule serves important interests,” said Mr. Rimmer, the prosecutor in the Holle case, “because it holds all persons responsible for the actions of each other if they are all participating in the same crime.”

Kent Scheidegger, the legal director of the Criminal Justice Legal Foundation, a victims’ rights group, said “all perpetrators of the underlying felony, not just the one who pulls the trigger” should be held accountable for murder.

“A person who has chosen to commit armed robbery, rape or kidnapping has chosen to do something with a strong possibility of causing the death of an innocent person,” Mr. Scheidegger said. “That choice makes it morally justified to convict the person of murder when that possibility happens.”

That last paragraph makes it so weird

This guy had chosen to pass out on his couch. He didn't choose to rob a drug dealer, he was asleep when the robbery turned murder happened. But apparently he's guilty for drunkenly lending his keys to a friend.

Finally Rick Scott commuted his sentence to 25 years, so should he have to pay for the years he was locked up for letting someone borrow his keys while he was drunk. I can't have sex if I'm drunk, I can't consent because my judgement is impaired.

Also the prosecutor was an asshole

Mr. Holle was the only one of the five men charged with murdering Jessica Snyder who was offered a plea bargain, one that might have led to 10 years in prison.

“I did so because he was not as culpable as the others,” said Mr. Rimmer, the prosecutor.

Mr. Holle, who rejected the deal, has spent some time thinking about the felony murder rule.

“The laws that they use to convict people are just (it's a quote from a young man speaking, he doesn't mean just as in proper in the law, he's using the language that started becoming popular I'll give you an example just let me think...*raise hand just stop, wait i'll give you what you want) — they have to revise them,” he said. “Just because I lent these guys my car, why should I be convicted the same as these people that actually went to the scene of the crime and actually committed the crime?”

Mr. Rimmer sounded ambivalent on this point.

“Whether or not the felony murder rule can result in disproportionate justice is a matter of opinion,” Mr. Rimmer said. “The father of Jessica Snyder does not think so.”

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Trump is on reddit?

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You're first article shows the doctor is using the courts as a punishment, and a he was a loan shark. 18% interest per month on an unpaid balance. That's how he could get court summons issued, just missing two months could put someone in the range that you can't use small claims court.

And what he says in my last quote, "I may be the only physician in Congress to help run a hospital" so repeal the ACA. It's not like there were many other doctors in the house and senate.

“There is a lot of variation,” Barak Richman, co-director of the health law program at George Washington University, said. “There are a lot that do bring lawsuits but also a whole lot that don’t. It’s not because they’re in a different position, they’ve just decided they’re not going to do it.”

Richman added that garnishments and arrests were “definitely on the extreme side.”

Neale Mahoney, an economist at Stanford University, said that research showed lawsuits against patients occurred in about 1.7 percent of hospital stays.

“It’s not surprising there are outliers but this does seem to be an extreme case,” Mahoney said.

Marshall's financial disclosures show he earned approximately $780,000 in 2015 from his practice and Great Bend Regional Medical Center, a facility he co-founded in 1998. Court records show the hospital also filed hundreds of patient lawsuits during his tenure as board chair and co-owner. Several of those lawsuits and collection actions continued after Marshall entered Congress in 2017.

Marshall previously leveraged his medical background while serving in the House of Representatives during efforts to repeal the Affordable Care Act, stating at the time, “I may be the only physician in Congress to help run a hospital.”

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Yes, it says so far the state has bankrupted people to get back $21 million since 2020 while in the same time frame they spent $125.3 Billion

From the article

Connecticut collected $19.7 million through prison liens from 2020 to 2025, and that money goes into the state’s General Fund. General Fund spending totaled $125.3 billion during the same period. Sources: Connecticut Office of the State Comptroller and state prison lien collection records.

0.006% of the state’s yearly operating budget

and

0.016% of the general fund spending from 2020-25

Imagine how many people would stay out of jail for $340 a day, that's equal to a full time job paying $42.5 an hour. I'd go back to school and get a second masters, plus then at least part of my tuition payments are going back to the state since I went to a state university

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Are harder to embezzle then payments coming from former criminals?

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No, that was kind of my point. Congress stepped in and told the feds there's a limit. Connecticut just said $340 per day sounds right for a 9X9 cell, foam mattress, and shitty food.

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The person gets out, becomes a productive member of society, ten years later their mom dies and leaves them the house so the state sues for it.

That would definitely make me want to keep obeying the law. /s

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They were actually charging you for the guards overtime pay, wow.

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true but Connecticut charges $340 per day while the fed has a law limiting them to less than half of that.

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I mean it would be one thing if they charged you for the cost, but $340 per day is more than 5 star hotels charge, and all you get is a cell a foam bed and shitty food.

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The article says the ACLU has argued it violates the eighth amendment, but I think that case is still tied up in court three years after it was filed.

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yeah, but $340 per day?

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Connecticut charges people over $340 a day for being in prison, and then waits decades to collect it. They don't ask you to pay when you first get out and have nothing.

They wait until you get an inheritance, a court settlement, or a lottery win. Then they sue in probate court, put a lien on the home your going to inherit, and force a sale to pay off a six-figure prison bill.

The worst part is that the state has taken $21 million from families since 2020, but that is only 0.006% of Connecticut's budget. The government is literally making families homeless over pocket change that doesn't even make a dent in state spending.

People don't see this coming because the courts never mention these fees during plea deals.

Who would agree to pay 3x what a hotel asks so you can be held in a cell?

One person won a settlement from the state for $2 million because their child was killed in foster care. Then the state sued them for $80,000 for the cost of prison. The prison they were locked in while their child died.

In one such case, Connecticut officials collected a prison debt from a man whose 1-year-old son died while in state foster care. With one hand, the state paid $2 million to compensate the family for the child’s death, and with the other, it demanded the father pay back more than $84,000 for his time in prison.