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It depends what said sexuality you mention being fine having is imo.

Have you accepted having your natal genitalia but actually having male aligned sex ? Because there’s a world between opting for acceptance of your natal genitalia for whatever reason while using alternative methods to have a male sexuality versus being perfectly fine with having a female sexuality ( which would be = no bottom dysphoria).

If you have a male sexuality you could fall in my opinion under transsexual.

I had a friend like that, it ruined a 8 years friendship.

Started super cool active driven person and then debuted a “neurodivergent” persona (aka fake disorder type) to the point everything was an excuse to not work nor travel nor do stuff nor even leave the house.

I never believed any of the conditions were real. All the symptoms felt like “a new persona” rather than genuine. At most they had a rough patch but no they weren’t autistic ADHD hypersensitive HPI Tourette’s or whatever.

I honestly tried to wait for it to pass but after over a year of hearing psychobabble and excuses I cut them off. They were uninterested in doing anything, in “getting better”, in any discussion but their supposed conditions and it was all one sided and about them. Also acted deep intellectual and superior because of the conditions when I was seeing them set their life on fire literally. When they started diagnosing me with some fake disorder BS it was the last straw. Like no I’m not autistic because I have some niche interests, I’m just a curious person.

Also we are mid twenties so far too old for this. I miss (the old) them but I’m not doing this.

Tbf they haven’t bothered looking like a man or even androgynous in a male way so fair enough since it’s probably all BS and they’re likely not genuinely a man and not trans. Probably behave like a woman socially and sexually too.

I have a bigger problem with the “trans man lesbians” that pass and then put their grown man mannerisms, male sexuality and undoubtedly male appearance in women spaces, making us look like preds. Basically the men that fetishise turning lesbian straight “she just hasn’t found the right guy” type but this time with a excuse.

Not saying I approve of any of it through don’t get me wrong.

Replace trans/queer by cancer patient and transition with chemo. All of a sudden it sounds fetishising and romanticisation of illness (which it is).

It just sounds worst when it’s cancer because trans has lost its real medical meaning.

Typical culprit. That’s a woman and we’re not validating the mind games at all

Yep that’s what it is instead of focusing the conversation on making “pregnant trans men” & co socially acceptable why don’t we improve access to real sex affirming fertility for TS men and TS women.

I don’t know what it would look like practically but it’s worth working on. IE the uterus transplants for TS women.

Everytime I hear some gender identity and social norms related bs instead of medical research it feels oddly transphobic and manipulative too like why are “we” (they) changing norms to “let us” do what’s in reality aligning back with our birth sex functions just under a decorative label rather than giving us access to our real sex in full ?

Imo pregnant = woman.

Let’s really feel the weight of all the steps it takes to get there. Getting pregnant often takes many tries of natal genitalia straight woman sex, facing this situation with countless medical professionals, going through a lot of natal genitalia focused examinations, the 9 months obviously, birthing the child (back to the facing part), etc…

Note you also have to stop T (if not take E…) and personally as soon as my shot is off one week+ I’m starting to feel a spike in dysphoria.

If you want to test it out and you’re a TS man think of your own dysphoria and walk yourself through the process mentally, observe at which point you can’t take it anymore.

That’s how I made my opinion on this.

They assume transmasc = butch women style look very queer coded, trans men = look like men more “regular” acting I think ? Something like that.

Exactly ultimately everybody is seen as what they look like.

That’s why a lot of transphobic family members start calling their trans relative the right pronouns anyways once they fully pass. They still don’t respect their trans condition. But now it’s not respect of identity anymore, it’s the brain wiring that takes over.

You pass well but you look 16-17, you have great potential to look your age if you lean out. You seem to have a good frame too shoulder wise which really helps so maybe you actually look your age in full body.

If you don’t want to go on a cut which is fair enough expect to look your age for sure in a few years anyways. I was in your case, the baby face just left on it’s own at 24-25.

I doubt “seeing someone as non-binary” is even possible for us biologically/socially, that’s not how the human brain works. It’s not a “cishet man bigot thing”.

I feel like people pick it up with context cues like specific style + social crowd + relative gender non-conformity. People in LGBT circles are just better at picking these codes up because they know them and choose to respect the identity out of personal belief more often. Deep down, they still see the NB person as the sex they look like.

Whole thing is so delusional

I’ve never understood it either, same with Grindr.

Isn’t that app for gay and bi men to hookup with other men ? Wouldn’t it make the TS women dysphoric to be there and wouldn’t they exclusively run into men who either see them as their birth gender - that or chasers who know the dynamic and thus, seek a type of sexual encounter that’s not appropriate with dysphoria ?

Now sure it’s been marketed more as a “LGBT” app rather than gay these days but that’s not the reality of the app ( as I’ve been told, I’ve never been there so I might be wrong).

It works like a charm !

Plus it never lead me to misgender anybody who was genuinely trans and I’ve been doing this forever.

The rest? I never even misgendered any either, I just made sure to use language that skirted around pronouns as much as possible and obviously cut interactions short. I feel like that’s the cheat code, then they can’t call you out for “transphobia” but they don’t get what they want either.

So they don’t have anything to complain about without looking crazy.

I go by the rule of “if using someone’s prefered pronouns feels like I’m insulting my own intelligence I’m not doing it”. Always have and always will.

If someone’s early in transition and clearly trying they will look at least somewhat ambiguous so it will make sense. They have showed that this is authentic and not a mind game so I am honouring it. Even if they don’t pass well.

But the ones that look like the opposite of what they say they are or ask for things that don’t exist are clearly looking for people to pander to them. It’s subtle narcissistic power play and I’m not playing these games. It’s almost like they don’t care about the pronouns, they care about people bending language/social rules for them.

I don’t think it’s transphobic. Transphobic would be like, you are friends with X who’s a guy, easy he/him by default no questions, one day you learn he’s trans so from that point on you’d misgender him because “he’s not a man anymore”.

The rest is sanity enforcement.

Don’t get me wrong I completely agree with you and I also don’t think Lily/Elphaba are women. I mean especially Lily - I’ve seen (…against my will) a specific porn video that no genuine woman would have posted. I’ve also watched a YT video about them trying to get women to “do OF with them”. They’re a fetishistic man imo the “transition” is rooted in sex desperation.

But also imo, the reason why these two are called out even by the “anything goes woke allies” who generally accept everything and anything is because they’re unattractive.

I’d even go deeper and it’s because they are unattractive as a woman but also as a man. There’s plenty of these non-passing trans women on TikTok who don’t get shit. But they’re attractive “androgynously” and don’t look bottom of the barrel like Lily.

I don’t think it’s transphobia, it’s lookism.

Like, to put into perspective, it happens to cis women as well. Ash Trevino VS Bonnie Blue. Both preds to young men. One unattractive one attractive. Bonnie gets attacked for being a pred, Ash for being unattractive.

It’s the same thing for Lily Tino or Elphaba. Them being non-passing trans thus “ugly” is the lowest hanging fruit for criticism. I promise you if they were trans and attractive this wouldn’t be. Anybody know the AJ clémentine / belle bambi drama ? Both really beautiful. Both TS. Didn’t really get insulted for being trans, the behaviours got scrutinised instead.

Lily’s ragebait about being trans like the restaurant stuff ? I mean it’s not great but beautiful TS women like Eden or even Blaire White have done similar ragebait-y stuff around the men’s restroom. Didn’t get shit for it.

Looks are everything on social media it’s the currency of that ecosystem.

It depends I’d say it’s low to mid dosage, did you do a blood test and did you see your T levels ?

If you can find the document and have your total T, free T SHBG and Estradiol to share I can tell you. Note I’m not a medical professional but I’ve done this for a decade and manage my own TRT due to medical negligence.

Also do you have some low T symptoms ? These could include : low energy or motivation ? fatigue ? No muscle and fat redistribution is already a red flag for this btw but as you are early on it’s not a definitive.

This is how it works practically as well, every single time I’ve had to deprogram somebody (my own family to be honest) who was starting to be radicalised against trans people, I started with “what about me” + “show me some examples”, the answer was “not you you’re normal” and the examples were always some crazy NB’s or trenders.

It’s not the binary trans people who assimilate they have a problem with.

Who said your dose is normal ?

Did you see these papers with a T level from the upper to middle of the normal range not the lowest tier or did the doctor said it was ok and you haven’t seen them ?

If you haven’t the first step would be to get privately tested, get that email directly and investigate these. Normal range is 300-1000 on paper but anything below 500 isn’t the best realistically.

In the case you have seen these papers with a decent number: are you considering or already got hysto ?

It’s gonna be the “political lesbians” lol aka they are bi at most often prefer men but they’re misandrist or trying to look misandrist for woke points so they can’t openly be bi/straight. They do prefer men tho.

I knew a few of these it was crazy, their whole dating history was either extremely masculine women who often ended up transitioning or guys like this. With the occasional cis male hookup of course.

Completely agree and also a lot of them think that transition is magic.

Like I’m sorry if you have a horrible diet and walk 2000 steps on a good day barely even drink water you will NOT look any better after transition. It should be obvious. The people who were healthy and attractive to start with will most likely stay like that. The ones who were unfortunate won’t unless some of these bad habits change.

And then they cry and say “I wasn’t warned” when they look like a discord mod instead of prompto from final fantasy idk it’s even in the lore that bro had to workout why did they think they were above it.

Plus all these guys they see on social media are the product of 1) top 10% because to get that following you have to be way above average 2) working hard behind the scenes to look this way 3) started from an easier place aka AMAB.

Words cannot explain how much I despise microdosing lol.

It doesn’t “gently” or “halfway” transition you. It traps you between two broken hormone profiles.

If you had a hysto, you end up with basically zero hormones. Mood, bones, heart health, all tank.

If you didn’t, you get a boosted low T male body: more body fat, weak muscle, brain fog, low energy. Yes, worst than a AMAB guy because you remain estrogen dominant.

As for the NB/trenders/whatever who do this : the broken hormone profile is actually the opposite of the look they want. This is why so many end up looking weird and all the same.

They aren’t getting androgyny, they’re getting hormone dysfunction. The pretty boys they idolize? They are actually high T, they just have the right genetic base and styling.

Microdosing makes sense for early puberty intervention, when the next step is a higher dose for sure, not for adults. Any pro offering this above 18 needs their license removed.

I’ll add to that that even the supposedly full doses prescribed are too low in a lot of cases.

A lot of doctors will give you the bare minimum to “look and feel ok” not “look amazing and feel the best” so if you want an optimal transition you might as well get your levels checked yourself and learn what to do with that info. I’ve gone that route since 2022 after discovering a 350 T levels that my endo found “perfectly great because the range is 300 to 1000”despite me complaining about low T symptoms.

Let’s say I put this at 700ish myself and it improved my life massively.

Go on minoxidil now and once you’re 2-3 years on T go on finasteride if you see your hair receding. Earlier is possible if you see your hairline advancing through the Norwood scale quickly and getting to stage 2/3 already, because when it gets beyond that stage it’s trickier to save your hair.

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Now, MPB isn’t just thin/fine hair, that’s genetic. You can improve that with minoxidil now and never ever bald further even on T. For finasteride you have to check for that specific MPB pattern via the Norwood scale. It comes with side effects but they’re not that bad.

Family predicting is only semi-accurate, but look at your maternal side first (grandpa,uncles etc…). Also for the first year on T your hairline will change but it’s not balding (yet).

Yes the bottom growth extenders exist !

It’s called the “hot rod” by Transthetics. I had it before SRS and it’s okay, you gotta be quite big there for it to be secure and it doesn’t work for anal. If you’re a straight couple this works, if you’re both guys (or like anal sex) this won’t do.

I believe they can be on paper, but also that there’s no chance 99% of the people claiming non binary now aren’t just confused or lying.

How possible is it that someone was meant to be born intersex ? Meaning they’d have sex characteristics from both, and we know that not all intersex people feel right about getting realigned with one sex or the other. So, that’s an (extremely small) possibility for “true NB”.

How possible is it that someone is just binary trans but slightly more non-conforming or has been made to hate their actual sex ? Meaning mostly trans men who stay in that non-binary label because the LGBT community is misandrist, thus they associate “man” with something undesirable to be. That’s also a possibility especially seeing most of the NB’s are AFAB, particularly the ones who clearly go through the FTM transition path medically : T, top surgery, etc…

So yes it is possible that some NB’s are “really non-binary” and also trans. And it is possible that some NB’s are really trans too but just… not actually non binary.

Obviously the clearly cis theyfab girls are annoying and lying. But I believe the other types deserve a bit more grace.