u/LifeReverse

I suppose I did expect significant deteriation in my mental capability and my body, I don't know where I've got this impression from

This gives me hope, 20's with just more money!

Holy! I do notice myself getting clumbsy a bit more than usual!

Less tired? Please give me a tutorial!

This is interesting because life has been slow progress for me that's probably why I don't feel much change, I feel like after 25 all I've done is count down the years on my mortgage, had a gf since I was 20 and it's going well, we have a dog together not really interested in children, no real financial stresses kinda don't have any big stress or motivators pushing me to achieve anything more but than to train the dog to sports level.

my career is good but don't want to push it further because any more of it is tistic levels of education.

I think I've always valued a cozy rainy day indoors with a hot soup and tv and that isn't really changing, I used to be an adrenaline junky as a teen and early adulthood but I guess that's going away too

Get a toy, there are rules with this toy, he EXCLUSIVELY has access to this toy outdoors and ONLY outdoors.

Get a second person, you and this second person play with this toy full energy, sprinting throwing, herd the toy, ignore your dog, set a timer of 3 minutes when the toy is available, once the timer goes off it goes in your pocket and doesn't come out for another 30 minutes.

When your dog comes (one day) for the toy, he doesn't just get it... No, he gets teased to the highest level of frustration, then BANG he gets to bite, site, herd, retrieve etc.

If you were able to engage the dog with play remove the toy at the dogs absolute highest level of arousal, this achieves 2 things, makes the dog addicted to the toy and caps the dogs drive limit.

You need to be genuinely full sprinting and laughing and actually having fun not faking it so make a Frisbee etc.

If this method works build obedience into it MUCH later and people say dogs addicted to toys are bad, but in my opinion the dog becomes addicted to a source, the source is the toy, and guess what you control it, and the dog will understand access to the source is from you and now you no longer need treats to train, the toy becomes the singular highest value method of training

Can you make a list of commands you have taught and next to them 3 numbers, how likely to do without a a treat, likely to do with a treat, likely to do with a toy rate them 0-10

Just to address the reactivity, my dog is friendly reactive due to me and my partner being told to "socialize her" by a trainer, also this friendly reactivity stems from dog having to be on public transport occasionally and people not understanding no until I physically push them away.

In regards to the course, the fundamental idea of it is to make the dog ADDICTED to alignment and says in concepts how to redirect ANY form of reactivity into alignment (reactivity is unguided drive) but never actually shows it

My dogs a very socially driven pet dog, toy poodle x maltese 3.5kg just hit 8 months not hit first heat yet, honestly for the price... No, but if it was like £150 I'd say yeah it's sports dog stuff.

There is one section called building drive in old or low drive dogs and I'm taking away a lot from it, I think I would have had much better cleaner progress if I did this from day 1 of getting a puppy.

One of my main problems I have is building up into high distraction which is actually working to some extent but my dog kinda decides if she wants to listen or not, maybe something to do with early adolesce

I can understand where you are coming from and there is actually a study The Salgirli et al. Police Dog Study that outlines the speed of learnt behavior on ecollar vs physical.

And personally like a mentioned in other comments, I prefer the idea of a surgical cutting tool over a butchers knife.

A flat collar correction can be confusing, the dog can received mixed signals of negative reinforcement and positive punishment and with how redirection is introduced the handler can accidentally positively reinforce the said behaviour.

Sadly I am not in a situation to e collar train the dog I live with, it's technically not my dog🫪

I have another hurdle, it's my girlfriends dog she stopped training after it reached 4 months, I have taken over pretty much everything (dog is approaching 8 months) I bought courses etc and read books, however my gf on the fence about e collars because she is so tiktok brainwashed, she suggested vibrating collar (which might work) but from the books I've read this can introduce superstition into teenage dogs and/or is infective or far too aversive compared to an ecollar (precision tool)

I'm taking her and the dog to areas where there are many dogs offleash trained and letting her be the first hand witness of the joy and freedom the dog COULD have without pushing her (I guess unbrainwashing by reverse brainwashing)😂

Hopefully she realizes before I have to spell it out for her she's clever enough

If this was JUST my dog would have been wearing ecollar (no batteries) from day one to condition the feeling of wearing it etc

In what way have you facilitated this prey drive? In my short experience utilizing the drive to make play/training stronger/faster/better makes me so much happier.

If punishment hasn't supressed the drive, bro nothing will work, utilize the drive to your advantage.

You have a serious f ing big dog with 3 breeds that need serious genetic needs met.

What have you done to fulfill these needs before going for a walk?

Ps.. I may just be talking out my ass I have a tiny rat dog

Cooked

If you want a dog ( I assume your willing to shed out £1-3k to get the dog you want ) spend a fraction of that let's say £500 on different dog training courses read books and prove to yourself your educated and ready for this before you contribute to a statistic ina shelter.

£500 on multiple different courses from different trainers in pennies in the dog world and would give you a handful of knowledge that will make you the best co-op companion for the dog.

If your not willing to dish out this money don't even bother getting a dog, I will tell you the blunt truth.

Someone who isn't willing to invest in education (that doesn't know anything about canine behavior; I don't mean this in a horrible way) should not own a dog. A solid 10-20 years of misery for you and the dog.

However if you do, kudos, to you, a dog was brought into my life by my girlfriend, I had no idea what I was doing, I endlessly brain rotted dog training and canine primate relationships through reading books and picking up different online courses and now I'm building a super strong relationship with the dog.

And people talking about a dog can't live in a flat is partially true, I live in a 1 bed flat with my pup and gf, the pup is really only indoors for sleep, training the fundamentals of every new behavior and sometimes play inside, we are extremely active and outdoors most the time, it's do-able for small breeds but a dog is a dog, isn't meant to be inside much.

Ps.. ex gaming addict, PC hasn't turned on in like 4 months I DO NOT HAVE TIME FOR OTHER HOBBIES (possibly due to my obsession of understand the two breeds my dog is made of and trying to fulfill those generic needs and love for training)

Only valid punishments for a dog = doing anything that would get their owner sued / criminal record / does something that puts its life or any other creatures life in danger.

I am yet to use aversive tools more than a flat collar but I also understand correction without direction = confusion = anxious reactive dog.

When punishment is applied the desired behavior ought to be shown immediately based on this principle however not with positive reinforcement as it creates a self punishment loop positive punishment = positive reinforcement.

For example dog does undesired behavior -> use leash pressure (negative reinforcement) to direct into sit <- very basic example

Once a drive switch is established you can directly follow up with positive reinforcement (this means the dog has a clear understanding that the activity is complete)

This is my novice take on it (I used to have a phobia of dogs but I live with one now) I have brain rotted dog training through The other end of the leash by Patricia McConnell, signing up for stsk9 heeling styles course and carefully watching long format training videos from YouTube based dog trainers from different countries and their different styles.

Please if anyone can add to or correct my comments please do

I think I'll probably invest in one in a month or two once I've shaped all my foundational behaviors and use low level stims as a drive switch, for example I've been using a an ACME 211.5 whistle as the recall trigger on a long line and a harness as a drive state level up and whip 180 and come right at me with her favourite ball, but sometimes she just gets frozen and needs the tiniest bit of leash pressure, (literally probably a few grams of force) to unstick her, id probably use the ecollar to get her out of these frozen states when she's stuck with super low stim.

Also one thing I'm noticing with my pup, if I drop the 10m long line (let it trail her) and just go for a stroll, after a certain distance maybe 20-25 meters, she just freezes, and I need something physical to get her out of this frozen state, I think a super low stim might do the trick for me.

In regards to undesired behaviours, she has a massive problem jolting at leafs in the wind (I have almost had her killed about 9 times since ownership) because of her jolting out to the street trying to catch leafs where cars are going (UK sidewalks very narrow) no matter what type of flat collar or Y harness correction I have done she persists to do it, making my walking anywhere apart from an open park really stressful.

Unlike some of these strictly R+ people I'd rather have her feel severe pain to extinguish a behaviour than have her die one day, yes you can argue I can have better leash management (I do and that's why she hasn't made it onto the street and got hit) but as flawed humans if this keeps happening it's only a matter of time where I'm badly transition the leash from one hand to another or God forbid somehow drop a leash and she jolts at a leaf and boom she's dead...

Hoping e collar might be able to help some of these.

In regards to preventing this leaf jumping behaviour, I've tried many forms of drive switch and target switching to extinguish this and it works!... But only after she's pinged off the end of the flat collar and realized I won't let her have the leaf, she'll come for the next best thing (center focus heel) I also have been very careful not to positively reinforce pinging off the end of the line at a leaf before anyone says I have been doing so.

From my experience with my 7 month old pup, anything apart from R+ shuts my dog down for shaping new behaviors, I'm struggling with accountability, looks like flat collar corrections aren't reducing undesired behavior / ignorance, and fundamentally what I understand is if a correction wasn't clear enough to the dog the undesired behavior is not reduce, also on the fence but my pup is young... Or am I making excuses because I feel bad and she looks like a teddy bear

Heeling styles specifically, super flashy heeling forwards in reverse, center each side, focus / street / contact, but I would either do it from day 1 of getting a pup so it becomes their default brain pattern or teach it later once the dog has the basics, I'd say shield k9 for actually being able to live with a dog

Stsk9 for the flashy tricks👌

Tell me how your dog is so chaotic, that trainer is robbing you lol, put a house line on, when the dog does something you don't like apply pressure, but sounds like you are setting the dog up for failure, at this age dog is in the crate unlessdog is peeing/poo or you are actively training.

All training comes through their meals, I don't know how much research you've done before getting a dog here

It seems your dad wants a dog for all the wrong reasons, don't get one, a German shepherd needs insane levels of obedience and mental training, that dog is going to have a miserable life

My dog doesn't do this but I do... If I don't eat for anything over 9-10 hours I'll vomit hard, and if I've past my non eat threshold even if I eat won't help, I'll throw up anyway, I get super exhausted and get easily irritated if I pass my non eating time stamp, I have no health issues apart from hay fever 27 yo male, healthy body weight very active