u/MrDaveHedgehog

You dopey gunt.

We’ve all seen the people who work as security in these places or who work as immigration lawyers. 

They’ll be about as British as the hotel occupants. 

Stuff like this really pisses me off because it completely devalues legitimate criticism and concern and allows lazy, disingenuous people to lump those of us with a brain that have actual concerns alongside utter mongs like you and avoid difficult conversations. 

I don’t work in recruitment. I’m an employer, I recruit directly. 

But yeah, more than happy to sound like a right prick to Redditors tbf. 

A more sanctimonious, self-pitying bunch of circle-jerkers you couldn’t ever wish to meet. 

Desperately unappealing and repugnant hate Rachel Riley simply because she’s a sexuallly attractive and intelligent Jew. 

It’s too much for them to take. 

Kick it up the other end and put it right in their fucking goal hole. 

This is new levels of embarrassing. Take some time off the internet mate. 

Why would you reply to a post about low intelligence debating with an even more egregious example of low intelligence debating?

I’m flabbergasted. 

It’s this sort of low-intelligence debating which is precisely why this has no place on a football computer game and a football computer game subreddit. 

I can tell I’m not dealing with Mensa candidates here, which further emphasises my point. 

Yawn. 

Sir, this is a football game. 

And this is exactly what I’m talking about. This is a football computer game sub. 

I’m not upset in the least. It’s just sad af that people feel the need to inject this sort of tedious shite into a football computer game. 

Cry? I just find it sad af. 

Long overdue having this shit rid from the game. It’s a football game, not a student politics event. 

No. Its the feminine features, mannerisms, demeanour, shape, style and behaviours that are attractive. It’s exactly why straight men can be sexually attracted to passing trans women, even if they wouldn’t ever actually date one or act upon that attraction upon finding out they’ve been “duped”. 

A non binary person who is a female can obviously still have all of those naturally attractive feminine attributes, even with an attempt to conceal them behind a more masculine/neutral style. 

The genitals are pretty much only relevant to acting on the initial sexual attraction. 

That’s a different matter though. Social stigma may stop them dating a non-binary person but sexual attraction is not generally something you have meaningful control over (notwithstanding the ability to suppress it of course). 

I’m not especially keen on discussing in a way that draws annoyance or becomes an argument so if it’s coming across that way then I’ll happily leave it there. 

There is no reason why he wouldn’t be. What she decides to identify herself as isn’t relevant to her natural condition, which is essentially what sexual attraction is all about. 

Thanks, appreciate the explanation. I have to be honest and say I remain a bit confused by it all as it still feels to me that pan and bi are essentially the same thing. I was only really asking as I didn’t get why non-binary would be excluded from a bisexuals interests. 

I can’t see how that final sentence can be true though. By definition, a bisexual person can be attracted to both sexes and so there is no preference. A non-binary person is still one sex or the other but just doesn’t outwardly identify as one gender or the other. 

So the only difference seems to be gender identity. I just find it odd to as where a bisexual person draws a line. 

Yeah I’ve read a few replies and still don’t get it tbh. To me bi and pan are the same thing and I’ve yet to see a coherent reason why a bi person would exlude a non-binary person from their interests. 

It’s odd that some people are downvoting me and seem to think I’m being disrespectful when I’m literally going in to bat for non binary people here. 

Sure, appreciated. 

Men are unattractive to me because they are hairy, smelly and possess features, behaviours and frankly body parts that are unappealing to me, while lacking the things that are appealing to me. There’s not much more to it than that. 

But a bisexual person obviously doesn’t find those things unappealing and so I don’t really understand why a non-binary person wouldn’t be attractive to them (wherever their sex) given they’d still tick the boxes of both sexes in either case. 

All I’m really getting at is that pan and bi seem to me to be identical as I don’t understand why non-binary person would be excluded from a bi’s sexual interest. It genuinely makes no sense to me. 

Ah I see. Forgive me, I’m old and trying to learn. 

So what is it about non-binary people that is unattractive to bisexual people?

Ah I see. Forgive me, I’m old and trying to learn. 

So what is it about non-binary people that is unattractive to bisexual people?