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Yes, when you don't factor in death charge or thralls. Maggot king is the only actual use where they're BIS.

There's like 3 places in the entire game where you use them, barrows, Maggot king, and frost dragons for irons. Everything else is niche like PvP which no one cares about, or the actual brand new accounts they're aimed for that don't have death charge or thralls.

And that's what it is. It's only BIS at maggot king because maggot king is designed for fire spells to beat out every other option.

Everywhere else it's a straight downgrade to occult besides very niche pvp setups, or the low level accounts that don't have thralls yet.

Not really because at that point you're using the better 2h weapons, like SRA or scythe or obligator now, and can't equip a shield, and you're not going to shield flick to try to save yourself some hp, you'll just camp blood fury.

Yes, and the downside of "turn 4 do nothing" for Kazakus is completely counteracted because your ritual pops on 4 into your trial popping on 5.

So it's not really a downside of a "turn 4 do nothing" currently.

The turn 4 is when your ritual pops and covers the "do nothing" turn into your massive swing with the trial assuming you didn't pick troll options.

It's a combo of both rituals being a bit too overtuned and covering the weakness of a very strong card.

With one simple trick, all pickems are dead.

They only reason they did so was because someone saw the post and decided to do it during free time. If no one made this post, nothing would've been done.

Yeah, obviously you shouldn't be able to have names like that, the fact that Deca allowed them in the first place, and they've been around for so long, just proves no one there actually cares to fix the actual issue. That's the entire point.

It's taken someone on the ROTMG team to come across this post to finally get action. Nothing happened via tickets, there's no report system for us to report and flag them for the team as we come across them. Nothing happened when they literally followed streamers around and spammed, etc.

So trying to say that they'd somehow magically start enforcing name rules even if they update their filter, is once again, delusional, like I said.

It doesn't matter what other websites or games do, because they're not Deca.

It's 100% irrelevant lol.

Deca has let it slide for years, if they actually cared, they would've taken the steps to fix it by now. They don't, so they don't do what other sites do.

So trying to say that once the filter is updated that somehow they'll magically start caring to ban people who circumvent it is just pure delusional. They'll simply go back to not caring.

They wanted more data on it before making a decision for the patch.

Yogg Shaman hard countered it and had a 50%+ playrate which made getting that data nearly impossible.

Same way standard players are asking how warlock dodged more bans when the majority of the ladder is zoolock now.

That's like every week1 wild format nowadays.

This year alone there was Godfrey warlocks on launch, Tolvir hunters/QLDH becoming near tier0 again, Yogg Shaman and N'zoth rogue, Discolocks, etc.

Nah because it makes no sense to do it because you end up killing the support cards on rotation.

Like ungoro quests rotate in 5 months, why would they print direct shuffle support cards for it now when they'd be supporting nothing for a full year after the rotation?

That's why the best quests/archetypes are just the generic ones that can work with everything. Demon seed scales off self damage, draw, and healing, three things warlock is always going to get as an example.

Or mage playing cards that didn't start in it's deck for Waygate/Timewarp. That's something mage is going to get every set since team 5 loves the RNG mage archetype.

Compared to something like Rogue's SI questline, where the rogue barely gets SI cards printed so there's rarely anything new to do with it.

That wasn't really a tier 0 deck though, and even at top legend only a few people played it well enough to refine the list and climb. It was a meta counter to board based decks, but it still folded to anything that didn't care about the board, like Hostage mage, which at the time was the best deck in format.

It's been 5-6 years since names like these were made and they're still around. Deca will not "ban you in a matter of days" for circumventing the filter lmfao.

Because the playrate was fucking insane lol. The side effect of that is now everyone shifted to warlock, which now also has an insane playrate.

Same way they banned yogg shaman in wild, that was at 50% playrate and increasing hourly, but didn't hit N'zoth Rogue.

It's a replacement for the small solo adventures we used to get that reward 1 pack, since adding more solo adventures would expose to many more players how god awful their AI has been for years now.

So now you just get your 8 step quest pack with lore in between each quest rather than your 8-AI game pack with lore between each game.

No, that's why we get free stuff in the shop every week, so you're conditioned to open it and look for the freebe and maybe see something you'd want you buy.

The journal is just poor design that was rushed to meet deadlines. Similar to how bad rewind was on launch.

They were running out of space in the old menu due to all of the side buttons they kept adding. The mobile interface was basically out of space. Like keep in mind they still need room for the black market dealer and the "hey play the new event" buttons they like to add.

The re-design fixes that but the journal was definitely rushed just to meet the deadline.

Same way rewind keyword was so horrible because it had to be released, and they eventually fixed it later on.

Nah that's just blizz AI now. Their AI has been bad since they added apprentice bots years ago to fill the queue for brand new players and has never been retuned since.

Same reason the solo adventure AI is so stupid and we haven't seen a new solo adventure since the dumbed their AI down, not even a book of heroes or such event.

Yeah, strange to not see that banned as well, but I guess they wanted more data on the N'zoth decks since yogg shaman was already nearing a 50%+ playrate.

Because you get a ton of free tickets from the track and the only other place to use the tickets is in the pre-release brawl, which also has shit rewards and gets very repetitive for f2p players.

What banned card lasted 2+ years without a refund? Crimson clergy? But that's a free coreset card so no refunds needed, and it was unbanned without a change since the card they nerfed was actually radiant elemental.

Yeah I don't see it getting hit this balance patch. Maybe in the future, but it definitely gets hit on rotation in 2028 so it can be unbanned in wild.

A 2k hp mundo that doesn't leverage the hp effectively, ie a gold player, is still going to get worked by any % hp damage top laner played by a challenger.

The bigger things are the ones that fundamentally make it impossible to lane against or scale against.

Like clown college would be impossible to play against. Shaco Q+Backstab for free and the 25% max hp true damage+fear on death.

Bees make it impossible to lane vs anyone with an easily hit ability, as you're just getting nuked by poke every 10-15s.

etc

I mean some cards did have to get the "non-titan" treatment like Shattered Reflections because of Eonar. I wouldn't be surprised to see the same phrasing come back for old gods until they rotate.

Next time they're just going to add 1000 standard range def to every boss lmao.