u/Splarnst
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The sun did not move
A lot of Catholics then and now certainly say it did.
there was a miraculous local light emitter specifically at Fatima
According to whom exactly? And how would you know if it's miraculous? Weird things happen with light all the time. You might as well say the northern lights are proof of Catholicism.
I don't see how there is divine deception involved in that conclusion, since there wasn't a loud booming Godly voice saying "this is the real sun that is moving!".
Deception doesn't require words. Trickery is deception.
The accounts stating that the sun moved are unproblematically understood as a reflection of their lack of omniscience, something that really looked like the sun yet was not the sun did x, y, and z.
So the miracle of the sun doesn't involve the sun but some mysterious dancing light in the sky? A light that God made knowing people would still to this day claim was the actual sun?
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Would you care to address what I posted about Fatima here 13 years ago? I never got a satisfactory answer. https://old.reddit.com/r/DebateReligion/comments/1ddcz8/to_catholics_whom_did_god_deceive_with_the/
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For instance, you never saw dice in a true Eurogame.
Not quite right. Dice can give you the input randomness you had just descibed.
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There's also this:
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Why not just take the 3 points? What about all these drops made them want to go for it?
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Play two in a row every year
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Trick taker: BidCoin
Shedder: Tichu
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Altiplano was on sale for $150, down from its original price of $550.
lolwut
The real price is like $50.
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Who said anything about worship? You’re making another assumption. I’d be OK not eating fish to avoid hell.
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You don't agree with my argument, therefore I didn't offer an argument? Why are you unable or unwilling to distinguish between those two things?
Your original post didn't even hint at your objection at all, which is worse than what you originally wrongly accused me of, and now you offer the laughably bad objection that it doesn't align with a common religious faith?
Yeah, I'm out. Not reading any more replies.
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I gave a specific example of when it would matter. You can disagree with it, you can call it a bad argument, but to say I didn't offer one at all is completely disingenuous.
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As someone who genuinely and unbiasedly believes in God
Unbiasedly? What does that mean in this context?
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You're making a lot of unsupported assumptions about a god beyond mere existence.
- They care about you.
- They know what you did.
- They will judge you.
- They will treat you fairly.
You really don't know any of that. What if there's a god and he's evil (by our standards at least) and he punishes you unless you do something really specific. Let's say you have to avoid eating fish on the day you die. If you avoid it, he lets you stop existing when you die. If you don't, you end up in eternal conscious torment. Even if it's completely unfair, it really would matter if there was a religion that told us what that really simple thing is so we can do it to avoid the bad consequence.
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Only one county had that ballot design. You might as well call it the US ballot design if you’re going to be that imprecise.
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Or shoot the western Balkans.
Please don't.
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I’m often going over the speed limit in the rightmost lane and people still tailgate me. That’s not on me.
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Isn't that exactly what everyone is already doing? Who's disagreeing with you?
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The line break has killed the period.
Seriously, not a single period in your whole text.
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Deist.
You've misspelled it 3 times so far.
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hear after
An echo?
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I’m imagining him folding pocket queens since there’s no ace or king.
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Stop calling him Paschal. Just stop.
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If you lose the general, maybe. But lots of primary losers eventually won the nomination including Trump, Biden, Hillary, Romney, McCain, even Harris albeit under special circumstances.
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Waldo is a speed trap cosplaying as a town.

I’m not sure Trump hates anyone. You have to care enough to hate. Nobody matters to him except himself.