u/Surroundedonallsides

302 post karma · 60.1k comment karma · joined Feb 2024

Surroundedonallsides

Oh, now this one I like. There's gotta be some tasty shenanigans this card enables.

Surroundedonallsides

Its pretty simple. You cosplay as something you arent, pretend to be "just asking questions" and "being concerned" while spreading division, gatekeeping, and all around trying to sabotage any positive movement or cohesion. You'll play coy, and act like you dont understand, and keep asking the same questions ad nauseum while not making any salient points. Basically you take the worst strawman you can imagine, then go cosplay as that to derail.

Theres a reason you keep your account private. Theres a reason you keep playing coy. And there's a reason you keep using sports as an example which is primarily a talking point on the right, rather than what actual trans activists are most concerned about (that being not murdered and access to healthcare)

Surroundedonallsides

Its pretty simple. You cosplay as something you arent, pretend to be "just asking questions" and "being concerned" while spreading division, gatekeeping, and all around trying to sabotage any positive movement or cohesion. You'll play coy, and act like you dont understand, and keep asking the same questions ad nauseum while not making any salient points. Basically you take the worst strawman you can imagine, then go cosplay as that to derail.

Theres a reason you keep your account private. Theres a reason you keep playing coy. And there's a reason you keep using sports as an example which is primarily a talking point on the right, rather than what actual trans activists are most concerned about (that being not murdered and access to healthcare)

Surroundedonallsides

Its pretty simple. You cosplay as something you arent, pretend to be "just asking questions" and "being concerned" while spreading division, gatekeeping, and all around trying to sabotage any positive movement or cohesion. You'll play coy, and act like you dont understand, and keep asking the same questions ad nauseum while not making any salient points. Basically you take the worst strawman you can imagine, then go cosplay as that to derail.

Theres a reason you keep your account private. Theres a reason you keep playing coy. And there's a reason you keep using sports as an example which is primarily a talking point on the right, rather than what actual trans activists are most concerned about (that being not murdered and access to healthcare)

Surroundedonallsides

You are cosplaying and its clear as day. There's a reason why I'm not the only one calling you out on it. Frankly, its amazing to me your post hasnt been removed by the mods yet.

This disinformation playbook is getting tiresome. Many of us are finally calling out these games as we see them, as you are playing right now. Get a new tactic or even better, leave.

Surroundedonallsides

Yep, zero doubt here. Shouldve known better when you literally used republican talking points while pretending to be trans.

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You arent MAKING any points in the first place. Youve yet to make one coherent point that isn't totally self defeating. You're just doing the same shit from 2016 where you pretend to be someone you arent, act like an ass, and attempt to sow discord.

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You're literally making zero points.

Surroundedonallsides

Hi, its me, a fan. Its just fun, mostly upbeat, psychedelic noodley rock. They produce a LOT of music, so its not all amazing, but almost all of it is a groove you can have on with a few that are standouts.

Surroundedonallsides

Ill continue fighting the party that wants to kill me and (presumably) you rather than creating a bunch of fake outrage to sow division within the party that doesnt, thanks.

Thank god people like you werent around in the early 2000s or we'd never have legalized our right to marry. But judging by your responses, I think thats actually your goal anyways.

Surroundedonallsides

It was banned to helped stem the over-representation of red-agro. But a lot of other red cards were also banned around the same time, and with the very limited amount of anti-lifegain mechanics I think its time to bring it back.

Or was. We're on the edge of a rotation so maybe we will see how things shake out then.

Surroundedonallsides

"Dont forget to help me with the eyes!"

wait, no, wrong movie

Surroundedonallsides

I wish they would unban screaming nemesis.

Surroundedonallsides

Wait, Im not necessarily the biggest loremaster of trek, so correct me if Im wrong, but isnt the borg's whole thing they are "collectivists" to an extreme, in other words, they do not hate anyone, they simply wish to add you to the collective so that all can be as one?

Seems like an odd choice. They aren't "hateful" they are closer to "indifferent" to your suffering, and genuinely want everyone to get along, as one united consciousness, the borg.

Surroundedonallsides

I've had a parasocial "big bro" one sided relationship with him as an actor since SLC punk and watching it on repeat most of my early teen years. I like the guy, and from all the press he gets he seems like a genuinely friendly, affable, dude.

But then again, Cosby seemed like a nice guy too, so who the hell knows anymore.

Surroundedonallsides

Thanks for the confirmation you are not an honest actor here.

Surroundedonallsides

The fact they keep using sports as an example is a key indicator this is a conservative pretending to be what they think a trans activist is, rather than actually being one.

Most trans people are far more worried about the spike in homicides against trans people everytime a republican is elected, rather than the question on whether a trans-woman can play mens sports, the whole sports thing only gets play on conservative outlets because it "resonates" with conservatives who dont want their daughter hurt (theres no proof that will happen regardless) despite there are single digit trans athletes in any given sport, and they aren't particularly top of the talent pool in those sports.

Sports Are WAAAAY down the list after:

-gender affirming care and protections

-access to healthcare without judgement

-HIV and sexual health

-Federal and State protections including the removal of trans people as a protected class in some places

-violence on trans people, often times men who embarrassed to have feelings for a trans woman but not always

Surroundedonallsides

You're just going to pretend to not understand the point, arent you?

If you had posted something about how important trans rights are to you, about who your favorite rep is, or why people should vote, that would be building towards something. Instead you are just seeking to destroy and divide. You arent advocating for yourself as a trans person, you are actively hurting your cause by pushing others out.

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The reason you are getting those accusations is you jumped into the one subreddit of political actors in the US who have been staunchly supportive of trans rights for over a decade in order to make a declaration that seeks to ostracize people out of the movement. Not only did you do that, but its utilizing the rhetoric of a fox news viewer rather than an actual trans person. Sports eligibility is a great example of this.

If you arent a saboteur you certainly have the hallmark of one.

Surroundedonallsides

And what progressives are not supportive of trans people's human rights? You posted this in a progressive subreddit, literally everyone here who isn't an agent provocateur is in support of trans rights, our progressive reps are pro-trans rights despite negative polling and have been for a decade. Hell, even multiple "moderate" dems are extremely open about supporting trans people.

The sentiment of your post seems to be "Only I get to decide whats right and wrong and if you disagree you cant be an ally" Thats the tone of someone trying to spread division rather than cooperation. If you want to narrow it down to a specific issue, and talk about that issue, we can, but you are just making broad generalizations in pursuit of alienating people out of "allyship"

Surroundedonallsides

Because you aren't advocating for rights, you are advocating for division. You came in here spoiling for a fight. Progressives have supported trans rights despite negative polling for over a decade now. Who are you even yelling at?

Surroundedonallsides

Are you actually here as MAGA to stir things up? What is this conversation?

Again, the original comment spoke broadly, i responded broadly to that sentiment. Not sure why you are having a hard time understanding this.

Do you think trans people are infallible and never wrong about anything? That being an ally means "always agreeing on everything"?

Surroundedonallsides

I never said anything about human rights, or that they should be ignored. I said allies can have disagreements and still be allies. You're jumping to a lot of conclusions instead of actually reading what I wrote verbatim. Almost like your goal is to stir up shit rather than build any kind of alliance or outreach that has positive goals.

Surroundedonallsides

Are you looking to just argue here? The point is allies can have disagreements, its meant as a broad statement, if you want to argue about something specific give an example.

Surroundedonallsides

The point is allies doesnt mean you think everyone is totally infallible and aligned on every single thing. Sometimes trans people can be assholes, or dumb, or misinformed, just like literally any other human. Because trans people are also human.

Do you have a specific example you want to discuss? So far the thread and the original post are all pretty vague, so I get that tends to lead people filling the gaps with the worst possible hypotheticals.