u/ramprunner
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I wouldn't say he's fake. I'd say he's broken.
That's the thing about therapy. It's harder to find peace when you are a narcissist who has millions of people calling you a hilarious genius.
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WIL 92.3 in Saint Louis, MO
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They release the brakes for you, silly.
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No you have to get drug tested before you start. And anytime there is an accident, you will get tested. Not to mention, we are governed by so many federal agencies, and of course, it's still illegal at that level.
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Sorry, no. Most morning shifts are 4:15 and 6:30 starts. Then people start coming in at 12:15p through like 3p.
There's also overnights but those take a lot of seniority to get.
Theoretically you could do what is called time trades or leave without pay/lwop, but those are much harder to do than full shift trades.
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After training you can do what is called buddy bids. You can take people's shifts or you can give away yours. I have heard of people who have worked here for years but haven't been on the ramp because they give all their shifts away.
There are over 520 people on that ramp. Someone is always either looking to give away or pick up a shift.
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I believe 20.65 to start. Everybody gets a raise in April. You also get a raise after every year served. My hire date was in February so I get mine then. Tops out at 40.xx after 10 years.
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Ramp Agent. 1000 foot view:
Marshall the plane in, offload bags, upload bags, push it out.
Edited for clarity
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Ramp Agent. Sorry, I thought you would go to the website if you wanted to know that. You would be surprised how many people don't even know what you just said.
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You ever fly? You ever look out on the ramp and see all those people running around moving bags and pushing the planes out and bringing them in? That's what we do.
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All of training will be full-time. 2 hours of overtime every day.
Week 1: STL. Most likely 7A -3:30P. Computer based training. Tippy is a good dude.
Week 2: Dallas. Computer based training. They give you your own room and a card for food. You will have a rocking good time. Especially if Craig is your instructor.
Weeks 3 through 7. STL OJT. They randomly place you with a trainer. Mine was 4:15 a.m. to 12:45 p.m. as I believe a lot of the Old timers like that shift. There's a couple of 6:30 a.m. starts and a couple of afternoon starts.
After getting signed off of training you have a 6 month probationary period. Clock in on time and don't hit the plane with the belt loader.
Boom! You are now a member of good standing in TWU 555.
Edit.: then they give you your schedule that you will be working for the next few weeks or until the next bid. Seeing as you are new, you will probably work the afternoon shift.
Sometimes the bid is a month and sometimes 2. Like the old timers like to work outdoors in the summer and then go inside to the bag room / transfer point in the winter.
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The internal email we got said they are looking to hire 25 people. Maybe ten will make it through probation. Fingers crossed.
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Safety safety safety. Teamwork teamwork teamwork. weather is not a factor in how you will do your job.
Go on the website and look for a couple things you can talk about. I remember I talked about our founder, Herb, saying something about doing what you love for a living it's not really a job.
Towards the end, when they ask you if you have any questions, show that you read the description and asked pointed questions about the description. Don't just ask like what is a typical day on the ramp? or whatever.
Edit: I know this is all obvious stuff but my interviewer told me you'd be surprised how many people don't pass the bare minimum.
SWA has changed a lot over the last couple years, but I would say they are still known for hiring for the intangibles. Just giving good positive vibes goes a long way.
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Farming while beige aka blackbirdcoop is a good YouTube follow.
He calls out people who complain in the first 90% of the video, and then in the last 10%, talk smugly about how they might have to sell everything and then go live comfortably for the rest of their life.
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Did he sprinkle onions on it?
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I was talking about Kim Potter in Minnesota.
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Like I said, this was like 20 years ago.
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Thank you for the well thought out and reasonable argument. As i, and others, have stated, all we have is anecdotes.
Because we all know that there is the book answer and the real world answer. And the real world answer is all I know is I'm going home in one piece tonight.
And the person who spends months in class and in the field training and still freaks out is always given the benefit of the doubt over the person who, all of a sudden out of nowhere, has several guns in their face.
Testimony? I forget the case, but there was a shooting where a training officer said she was going for her taser but went for her gun and shot someone. Several of her students said that that was her go-to move, she explicitly told them to say you were going for your taser but you " accidentally" grabbed your gun. That's what it takes to get a conviction. You have to go out of your way to telegraph your intentions years in advance to multiple people.
Look at the George Floyd case. As what has happened many times they just put out a press release saying someone had a medical incident and died before the first responders got there to save them. How many thousands of those press releases are going out every year? And it would have worked just like all the other times. But someone was filming it.
Not to mention they are less likely to be investigated. Less likely to be arrested. Less likely to be charged. Less likely to be convicted. Less likely to be sentenced. Really, all they have to do is quit before the investigation starts and move two towns over. No laws were broken. So they're good.
We could go on and on. But if the check doesn't say "for bribes" in the lower left-hand memo I guess it's not a bribe then right?
Yes, none of that is testimony level proof. But tell me if it passes the laugh test.
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As I mentioned in another post, I attended the first Maryland Heights citizen's academy.
One class, we went to the county Police academy and played on their simulators. Yes, he mentioned giving different orders.
Also, there was another cop in the class who was older and said he didn't mind working Westport plaza. He said a lot of the younger people didn't because they were afraid to fight and a lot of drunk people like to fight at Westport plaza. That was surprising to me as he was older.
So yeah combine those two anecdotes and it really starts to show how police view the world. You see Uvalde cops playing on their phones (;that have a Punisher cover) while a mass murderer goes around killing children. And then even when they are forced into a situation where they can't run and hide, they empty their clips and form the blue wall.
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I was talked into attending the first Maryland Heights citizen's academy. I believe it's now a one evening class. Back then it was a one night a week for for, I wanna say, six weeks?
So yeah, the teachers let their guard down over that time and said some stuff I don't think they realized.
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Ask a cop that trusts you and they will admit it: Giving differing orders is standard procedure. Now, no matter what you do, everything they do is nice and legal because you disobeyed an order either way.
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I'm moving to LAS for my job with a tentative start date of 10/1. Would love to make a friend. Sending you a DM when I get some free time from work.
Yes! I remember all the after show interviews, all the celebrities were like, we just witnessed history!
Back then, people weren't really saying stuff like that immediately after an event. I think that was my first moment thinking that.