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I would also like to take the time to advocate for the ending of all male sports, in support of the woman that was raped by the Duke Lacrosse Team. In such instances where guilt is so evident and the media coverage is so thorough we should act, we can trust public opinion cleanly.

Just like the Salem Witch Trials - completely justified, if only they targeted only men. Misandrists of the World UNITE!

Remember this the next time someone says, "You can trust the police, let them do their job."

To be honest, Ukraine's allies are doing exactly what they are supposed to be doing, and Ukraine is doing what Ukraine is supposed to be doing.

You are expecting people to do things that are not in their best interest, which sets up everyone, especially your allies to do bad things to you.

What you should expect from your allies is to act in their own best interest. Some allies will be more in line with what you want. Other allies will flip flop from helping to hurting you. You shouldn't be upset, you should just continue doing your goals regardless of what your allies want. Just like everyone else.

Midterm Elections > War in Ukraine - it is sad but everybody knew who they were voting for.

She consented to a threesome with them, she didn't consent to someone texting the entire frat house "free pussy"

Texting this is not illegal.

and then a bunch more dudes showing up to join.

This happening also is not illegal.

Consenting to group sex with two people doesn't mean you consent to everyone else who walks through the door.

According to her account, she opened the door, she let them in the room, and she allowed them to do drugs off of her "Prefect body."

Male Number 3 then knocked on the door of the room. Jane Doe “decided to let him in because it was his room.” She “opened the door” and let Male Number 3 in the room. Male Number 3 “introduced himself to [Jane Doe] and reached out to shake her hand.” “When [Jane Doe] made contact with [Male Number 3’s] hand, [Male Number 3] pulled [Jane Doe] into him and [they] began making out. While [Male Number 3] was kissing [her], [Male Number 2] began groping [her].” Eventually, “[Male Number 2, Male Number 3, and Jane Doe] would end up on the bed next to where [Male Number 1] was sleeping and [they] began to have a threesome.”

“[Male Number 1] would eventually wake up” and “said he wanted to take part and asked about making it a foursome, to which [Jane Doe] said ‘Hell No.” Jane Doe rejected this request “because [she] knew that a foursome meant that [she] would have to take part in anal sex.” Jane Doe then remembered Male Number 3 leaving the room.

A group of other men – later determined to be Male Number 4, Male Number 5, Male Number 6 and Male Number 7 – then entered the room. Jane Doe hid under the covers of the bed. Male Number 2 laid in the bed next to Jane Doe. Male Number 1 sat on the corner of the bed. Male Number 1 introduced the other males to Jane Doe.

All awake, all consenting, all with in normal accept/reject parameters.

At no point in Jane Doe's entire written/edited/sworn report to the police did she indicate that someone had sex with her while she was unconscious.

There was a beginning, a middle, and an ending to her story.

She indicated the level of intoxication several times:

• 5 out of 10,

• then 5 or 6 out of 10,

• and then 8 out of 10.

There were no gaps where she was unconscious.

So after the part where she was already 100% unconscious… was it “Male 1” or “Male 2” who texted into the frat group chat “free p*ssy”

Which names are you attributing to [Male Number 1], and [Male Number 2]?

Many of them had sex with an unconscious girl

Most, if not all of them, knew/endorsed it

According to Jane Doe's written/edited/sworn report to the police:

None of them had sex with an unconscious girl.

The only possible exception of the last 2 males, which stopped when she said she was tired.

Here is an excerpt from her report to the police:

“The threesome continued until at some point, around 5:45am, [Jane Doe] said [she] was tired and needed to turn in. At that point, both guys stopped the threesome with [her] as far as [she] can remember.”

Do you think the Jane Doe was raped? - According to her 2024 written/edited/sworn statement, at what point was she raped?

[Male Number 1], [Male Number 2]? - was that rape to you, and if yes, by whom?

Or was it the last sexual encounter? or was she raped at all?

You seem upset /u/katg3786.

I only asked if you could attribute the text messages to the two specific males we were talking about.

It seems to me that you can't, and are blaming 2 specific males, for the actions of other males that might not even been in the room that night.

You can either tie [Male Number 1,] and [Male Number 2] to the text or you can't.

Also I read Jane Doe's own words to the police. I find all her and the males decisions disgusting.

Are you saying [Male Number 1] and [Male Number 2] were texting while having sex?

Or are you saying other members of the Fraternity were texting about the sex and were not necessarily in the room at the time?

You are applying a double standard.

If they were women, Jane Doe would have "Raped" them. - According to the play by play in her own story to the police.

Jane Doe's own statements to the police bring into question if:

Male Number 1, and Male Number 2, were legally able to make the decision to have sex.

One fell asleep during sex, the 2nd started dry heaving during sex. - If the genders were reversed Jane Doe would have a decent chance of being charged/convicted of rape based off her own statements.

Edit: Here is why I said that:

The three engaged in a “threesome” involving oral and vaginal sex in a room of the fraternity. At the start of the threesome, Jane Doe described her intoxication level as “5 or 6 out of 10” and that she was “pretty ok with having this threesome.” The sexual conduct ended when Jane Doe “noticed that [Male Number 1] appeared really sleepy and was no longer fully erect.” She told Male Number 2 “[they] needed to stop having sex in order to make sure [Male Number 1] was ok. [Male Number 2] then stopped having sex with [Jane Doe].”

Male Number 1 said “he was going to take a nap and refresh himself” and “would eventually stumble his way from the couch to the bed.” While Male Number 1 slept,

“[Male Number 2] began to dry heave as if he was going to vomit. Jane Doe “began to take care of [Male Number 2] by patting his back while also waking [Male Number 1] every few minutes to make sure he was okay.” Jane Doe “was consoling [Male Number 2] on the couch and telling him that it was ok if he needed to vomit. [Male Number 2] told [Jane Doe] he was pretty sure he wasn’t going to vomit. Eventually, [Jane Doe and Male Number 2] would start making out for a very short amount of time.” While they were making out, “[Male Number 2] reached for the area near [her] vagina several times and each time he did, [she] would swat his hand away.”

https://www.tompkinscountyny.gov/News-articles/District-Attorney-statement-regarding-Jane-Doe-v.-Cornell-University-et-al

The only Males I could possibly charge were the last 2 Males that had sex with her, as she stated “8 out of 10” for level of intoxication.

Edit: Here is her own words on 8 out of 10, and last 2 males.

Eventually, “[Male Number 1] and [Male Number 4 ] ushered [Jane Doe] out of the room brought [her] upstairs to a small room.” Male Number 1 stated, “Let’s do more Ketamine.” Jane Doe “remembered snorting more Ketamine” and “remembered feeling extremely high.” Male Number 1 “said he wanted to have sex again because he wanted redemption for passing out earlier in the night.” Jane Doe initially stated that she was tired and asked Male Number 1, “What happened to just you and me?” Jane Doe could not remember how it started but she then engaged in a threesome with Male Number 1 and Male Number 4 involving oral sex and vaginal sex. She described her level of intoxication as “8 out of 10” at this point. “The threesome continued until at some point, around 5:45am, [Jane Doe] said [she] was tired and needed to turn in. At that point, both guys stopped the threesome with [her] as far as [she] can remember.”

This is Jane Doe's own words to the police, in a written, edited, signed, sworn statement.

If the genders were reversed, you would be telling me that they should have known that a girl that passes out during sex is too drunk to have sex with.

Especially if you knew to check on her, like Jane Doe knew to check on [Male Number 1.]

If the genders were reversed I think you would see things my way. Double standards much?

What I am saying is from her own statement to the police:

• The first 2 guys were too drunk to consent to having sex with her.

• She should have known to stop, but she did not.

The evidence of this was Male 1 passed out during sex.

And Male 2 started to dry heave during sex.

Her own statements to the matter was - she was not as drunk as they were. 5-6 out of 10.

Jane Doe's 2024 sworn statement to the police would disagree. Link: https://www.tompkinscountyny.gov/News-articles/District-Attorney-statement-regarding-Jane-Doe-v.-Cornell-University-et-al

The three engaged in a “threesome” involving oral and vaginal sex in a room of the fraternity. At the start of the threesome, Jane Doe described her intoxication level as “5 or 6 out of 10” and that she was “pretty ok with having this threesome.” The sexual conduct ended when Jane Doe “noticed that [Male Number 1] appeared really sleepy and was no longer fully erect.” She told Male Number 2 “[they] needed to stop having sex in order to make sure [Male Number 1] was ok. [Male Number 2] then stopped having sex with [Jane Doe].”

Male Number 1 said “he was going to take a nap and refresh himself” and “would eventually stumble his way from the couch to the bed.” While Male Number 1 slept,

“[Male Number 2] began to dry heave as if he was going to vomit. Jane Doe “began to take care of [Male Number 2] by patting his back while also waking [Male Number 1] every few minutes to make sure he was okay.” Jane Doe “was consoling [Male Number 2] on the couch and telling him that it was ok if he needed to vomit. [Male Number 2] told [Jane Doe] he was pretty sure he wasn’t going to vomit. Eventually, [Jane Doe and Male Number 2] would start making out for a very short amount of time.” While they were making out, “[Male Number 2] reached for the area near [her] vagina several times and each time he did, [she] would swat his hand away.”

After facing doxxing and death threats, the lone holdout juror in the Lindsay Clancy murder trial has relocated to an undisclosed location to escape public scrutiny following the deadlocked jury.

https://www.facebook.com/TheWashingtonTimes/posts/after-facing-doxxing-and-death-threats-the-lone-holdout-juror-in-the-lindsay-cla/1446774727312567/

So I guess she could just move, like the Lindsay Clancy Hold Out Juror had to.

Strange how the media was actively doxxing the Holdout Juror in the Lindsay Clancy case, but then suddenly become against doxxing in the same 1-2 week period.

Dunno, same way they doxxed the Lindsay Clancy holdout juror. Give enough clues and someone will guess it.

Through Jane Doe's own 2024 account of the incident, it was consensual, with the possibly of the last 3 some she had, she was possibly too high to choose to participate in.

Although through the same account, she could be accused of rape, because the first 2 males were too drunk to choose to participate in sex, and she should have known that. - 1 passed out during sex, and 2nd started dry heaving during sex.

I am unaware of what screen grabs the above person was talking about, and the redditor above has deleted the message. So I can not reply.

Hey buddy. You need to read her original complaint: https://www.tompkinscountyny.gov/News-articles/District-Attorney-statement-regarding-Jane-Doe-v.-Cornell-University-et-al

Also you are dangerously close to threatening others over an opinion on the internet.

Did you read her original statement to the police/DA?

It is worth the look, because if I were the DA I would have trouble bringing charges based off her written/sworn/attested statement. - On the penalty of perjury.

The only people I could possibly bring charges against was:

• Jane Doe - the 2 of the males she was having sex with were too drunk/high to make decisions. - 1 male passed out during sex, due to alcohol/drugs, and went to sleep on the bed. - for which they knew to keep waking him to make sure he didn't die of alcohol poisoning. 2nd male was dry heaving and nearly puked several times. - During this event there were no other male participants in sexual activity or in the room.

• The last 2 males she had sex with. - Jane Doe agreed to have like 5 males do drugs off of her "prefect body" - when 2 guys walked in and said "Ok we’re shutting down whatever the f* this is.”** - Then she sat on a chair for a little bit, (dizzy), and then when the 2 guys that shut it down went away, she went into another room with 2 males and did more drugs and sex. She described her level of intoxication as “8 out of 10” at that point.

Read the full transcript of her complaint to the Police/DA in 2024. It is worth the look.

Edit: Formatting - I used a direct quote which included 3 asterisks which introduced errors (Too much Bold) in the formatting.

The workload starbucks employees are expected to do is higher now, and hence they are always cutting corners.

Less stores = more profitable stores = completely overworked employees.