Hand position on hoods

I had a bike fit and have a pretty comfortable reach. This is the position my hand naturally falls too, comfortably wedging the curve of the hood into the webbing of my thumb and index finger. I don’t get any numbness or strain whereas previously on a different bike that wasn’t fit correctly I was getting hand numbness

Since getting the fit i got a new bike which was set up by the mechanics to the report spec. The bike I upgraded to has Di2 and they have the top buttons but I just don’t feel like I can comfortably reach with my thumb unless I reposition with the webbing a bit higher up. I can reach like that just fine but it feels a little weird. Also, access to the brakes isn’t great from up there. Is this just how it is?

I was thinking maybe the handlebar needs to be rotated down slightly the flats appear to be on a slight positive angle? Same as the hoods they appear to be slightly pointing up.

Should I reconsider the top buttons to be a separate hand position entirely to the position I would normally be in using the lower shifting paddles?

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Proper-Ad-2585

That’s kinda a million subjective questions but I can say … I think your bars are tilted up (at the front) a little. Tilt them down, reposition the lever clamp further up the bar and try that.

puffmoike

I only have 105 Di2, so I’m guessing that means I have an identical or very similar lever and hood shape, but no secondary buttons.

I also find slightly rolled back bars with slightly angled up levers to be the most comfortable position (I fiddled with different setups quite a bit).

As an experiment I just tried to reach the hypothetical buttons on my hoods with my thumbs and found I could do so pretty comfortably. This is despite having relatively small hands.

Unlike other commenters so far, I’m going to suggest rolling your levers inwards (but keeping everything else the same). This is almost the norm now in pro ranks, and it works for me for two reasons.

Firstly I just find it more comfortable when resting my hands in the regular position on the hoods. As an exercise relax your arms by your side and then swing them up to shoulder level and note the orientation of your hands. If you’re anything like me the palms won’t be remotely parallel to each other, which suggests to me levers shouldn’t be parallel either. Having ridden like this for 12 months it’s seems ridiculous that the norm has been to have our levers pointing straight ahead for the past 100-odd years, when this could have been tried with then-current equipment at anytime time in that period.

Secondly it makes for a more comfortable, secure and aerodynamic position when in the ‘aero hoods’ position (where I’m crouched lower, with my forearms resting on the tops of the bars, and I’m gripping the tops of the hoods with my fingers nowhere near the brakes).

My guess is you will have a third benefit, which is that you might more easily reach the buttons from your default on-the-hoods position. In my brief simulations it feels like I’d get pressure in my forearms as I try to move my thumbs if my levers were in your position, but I don’t have any of that sensation when reaching with my thumbs from my hoods position.

But even if you can’t easily reach the buttons from emulating my lever position you might find it better overall for the same reasons I do, so give it a try.

delljj [OP]

Thanks for the insights and your own experience. I’ll consider whether tilting inward might improve thumb access to the top

Traditional_Bench424

Use a pencil and and draw a line on both the bars and stem where they meet. Then rotate the bars 1mm down using the line as a reference point. go for a ride and bring a Allen key with you. Then play around with the bar tilt till you find the sweet spot. Don’t over do it, adjust in 1mm increments as it doesn’t take much.

Marcus_Utrecht

Di2 12speed shifters are somewhat bigger then then the 11speed. So yes, position or feel can differ. Once at the right hight, I tend to move the shifters a little bit inward, as this will accommodate the natural position of your hand/wrist.

count_grams

To be honest the bar looks a little rotated upwards. Normally the bar end plugs should be in a vertical line with 90 degrees to the floor. So like this | and now they are more like \ and the flat part of the stis should be more like - maybe a little little bit up but in the end if you have no pain ride like it and keep it

CobbledbyRoubaix

i have small hands and Di2 and i can never reach the buttons comfortably without almost crashing

ChinkInShiningArmour

I suggest trying to hold the hoods with only your ring and pinky fingers between the bars and brake levers, rather than with three fingers in between. Your middle finger will move to being on the brake lever with your index finger. 

This grip not only allows better control for braking but also reduces ulnar deviation of your wrist, i.e. less strain. You will probably also find you have better access to the di2 button at the top of the hood with this position 

Inevitable_Rough_380

Try getting more of your palm on top of the shifter vs the side.

From the looks of it, you’re gripping the outside of the shifter. Just tried your postition on my bike - felt like I was going to slide down the shifter when I lifted my thumbs.

delljj [OP]

Thanks, I’ll try refining my position