Is dodging even worthy?

Like the title say the game has a dodge roll! Wow! But does It do something other than consume stamina and move you away? Does it even have i-frames? As an old Dark Souls player i love being able to learn attacks and Dodge them accordingly in games, so even here i try to dodge them when i can but, even more against bosses, dodging doesn't seem to provide any i-frame and i get hit every time. Is it bad ping? Am i doing something wrong?

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CR4ZEcs

Am I the only one who finds it works perfectly fine?

Jagcarte95

Nope, I think it works great too. I just don't expect to get i-frames like some people. It's a movement skill, an evasion skill, not a get-out-of-jail-free skill, so I don't use it as one lol.

[deleted]

The dodge seems fine to me but there are some enemies that either have janky hitboxes or weird lag. The Arbiters in particular have a couple attacks that hit way beyond where it looks like they would.

Jagcarte95

I think it's the weird lag, honestly. I have a pretty beefy machine and wired fiber and their servers still shit the bed every now and then.

I have settings decently low and cap them at 120 because the game still looks just fine and I want my system to not have to work very hard to play this game. If I have a session where I play for more than a couple hours my frames start dropping a consistently a couple at a time every few minutes. Then after about 20 minutes it just drops to like 17 frames and never recovers until I reset the game lol.

Temps are good, clock speeds are good, I intend to look for a memory leak next, don't know why I didn't check sooner lol. But the game is pretty poorly optimized IMO, if it chugs on people's PCs I have no clue how they expect it to run much better on mobile phones.

[deleted]

I don't think it's crazy to expect iframes when you aren't explicitly told there are none in this day and age where a bunch of games are trying to emulate dark souls.

Or didn't know there weren't iframes. Needs to be told. Now he knows and can probably use dodge effectively.

ZannaLion [OP]

No, i too think it's fine. I still use it, it's a great fast movement move to get out of danger or dash near and enemy in melee. Just wanted to see what you others think about it since it's not explained anywhere in the game and almost every other media does it with i-frames and so i tend to associate to things i already know when the gane doesn't tell you things.

[deleted]

I think we're just used to all the wannabe souls-likes that are getting released,but iframes weren't always a given in games. I too found it to be a bit of a learning curve, I've trained myself to dodge THROUGH attacks not out of their range for so long it's hard to break that habit.

[deleted]

If you aren't used to games that use iframes yeah but of here just seems to be confused on that.

orangeson123

Most if not everything is avoidable, but you have to fully avoid it (no iframes). The dodge is a movement option with front loaded speed, so for large attacks you can try moving and dodging at the end. So lets say dodge moves one meter but you need to move 2 meters to avoid the attack. You can run one meter and then dodge and that will be faster than just running 2 meters.

jjojehongg

dodge sucks ass honestly. it’s come in clutch a few times but i dont rely on it to save me. usually just load up on stardust energy drink or spring legs before i do anything big

yabadabado0o0

It is when using Iced Tea as your drink buff. Greatly increases the dodge speed and distance.

ZannaLion [OP]

It does what? I have to try this!

skycorcher

Rolling in Once Human isn't going to be the same as rolling in Elden Ring. I usually roll when the enemies get too near me. Like Spiders and Melee enemies or whatnot.

Salt_Brother7138

Yeah I think your used to games that give you free immunity when rolling. You don’t get that in Once Human. If you want to roll outta something you have to roll before it hits you. Not as it hits you. Also that would be insanely busted on PvP as I could just indefinitely I frame till they run out of bullets then turn and burn. Resulting in rarely loosing 1s.

ZannaLion [OP]

Maybe not that much abusable since it uses just so much stamina you can use it like 2-3 times and spamming it would live you like a sitting duck, since you can't even walk normally with 0 stamina, but i get where you're going.

Salt_Brother7138

Nah you can stack stam buff foods I do this all the time cuz I roll a lot and use the whim for jumping that way I don’t run out of stam a lot. So yeah easily exploitable if it was I frames and not the way it is now.

Darthcone

If you use iced tea or any movement speed buff it's almost like i-frames. Also, if you have weaver you can leave sticky traps to pin down opponents.

ZannaLion [OP]

And i saw there is even a memetic craddle point that give me DR when i roll, that's useful too.

SaltyToast9000

I use it against rosettas/ vultures so they can't do crap while i baton them to death

Misomuro

Im more mad that standing up animation after self-revive dont have i-frames. I used adrenaline and got knocked down again before even been able to move.

[deleted]

The answer appears to be no, there are no iframes, you have to use it's movement to get out of range of attacks.

odi_de_podi

The real thing I dislike about the dodge is the fact that if you could do half a dodge, you just stop moving the direction you where dodging to. It's those little things that make the game partly frustrating

[deleted]

Yes, just like dodging in real life doesn't give you any i-frames. It allows you to dodge fast out of the way.

ZannaLion [OP]

No, i think roll dodging irl would very likely just break my neck, but i get the idea. Thank you

davemanhore

Yeah, any dodging these days and my dodgy knee would buckle.

RandyWholesome

There's a perk that gives you reduced incoming damage while dodging. It's still something.

Beautiful_Hotel_3623

Jumping with spring legs > dodging almost always

Alarming_Trainer3931

Dodging helped me a lot during the first 2 boss fights. it's absolutely worthy.

Karakla

It doesn't work as great if your Bodytype is fat. Then it takes longer. Making the dodge roll in my opinion useless.

shadowknight2112

It’s a ‘making distance’ tool & not an ‘I’m invincible’ tool…