In India, You can find lots of girl in IT,Computer engg. and Electronics, but Courses like Chemical engg., Electrical and Industrial Control engg. has very few girls because They are considered as Field Jobs..
Hi there. I was a dev for 10+ years, and now manage a team of devs. There are a lot more women in software since I started, but it's still dominated by men.
I would offer a few bits of advice to anyone getting into the business, but for women especially:
1) Just be yourself and enjoy the coding. Don't get hung up on other people's hang-ups.
2) You will almost certainly earn less than your male counterparts in the early years. When you have experience, find an employer who grades you on skill, and can back that up with data.
3) Ignore the whiny shits like u_fail, who seem to blame women in general for their inability to get a date.
4) If you meet u_fail in the workplace, treat him professionally. If he hassles you, though, let your boss know, and go to HR if it's still a thing after that.
CS guy here, you have to see out side. The little interaction we get with girls, makes it hard for us to meet girls. Where as girls have to make no effort to meet guys, because guys are the ones that have to put themselves out there and face rejection. So you'll have no problems meeting guys. So basically Fuck you.
Girl here. You might notice that being in engineering I have a myriad of male aquaintences. Please note that I am not fucking any of them either.
Yea, I come off real nice and smart but it was not destiny that we met, there is less than 1% chance that I will desire a relationship with you (just the same with allll the other guys) but because you have a white belt in social skills you won't realize I'm gently trying to let you down and you'll continue to hit on me. When I break it down for you, you'll get bitter and angry and say unnecessarily petty and hurtful things. I could just find excuses to hang out less but that would be passive aggressive which you'll gladly point out to your friends while calling me a frigid bitch ice queen and planning my demise. It would leave a bad taste in my mouth.
We appear to have opposite problems which will probably only be solved by a whacky freaky friday adventure. Oh but that won't work because you'll stay inside all day playing with your boobs and I'll stay inside all day whacking off.
The little interaction we get with girls, makes it hard for us to meet girls.
Oh, here's your opportunity!
So basically Fuck you.
...and ...forever alone. This kind of attitude is what keeps women out of these fields, and makes it harder for nerd dudes to get laid. (no to mention meeting girls with the same interests)
Honestly, college classes aren't really the best places to meet girls anyway, so I never really understood the "lack of interaction" excuse. Most socializing takes place outside of classes, and you meet a giant number of people of every gender. If you do something that is, anything. Join a club. Play a sport. Foozball down in the lounge. Get properly wasted once in a while. Live. There are more women than men in college now, less excuse than ever.
Hey I want to commend you for going into CS. I just graduated with a Bachelor's in CS, my school consisted of 300 students, and only 15 girls. Its a boy's club, but its definitely worth it.
In five years I was also incredibly surprised by the number of guys who were oblivious douchebags. An equally surprising number of those were frat guys.
Resist the pressure to have everything done for you by fawning nerds. Every halfway decent looking girl in the major was totally useless by graduation time due to this phenomenon.
And do yourself a favor and do what I did - don't live in engineering dorms, don't go to engineering parties, and try to make as many friends outside of the major as possible - college is full of cool awesome people and very few of them are in your major.
And take some humanities classes, I've met too many engineers who didn't know ANYTHING about anything except for their job. There is more to life. Oh, and CS guys - do this too, that's how you meet girls in college. The opportunities are endless.
Excellent advice, will take note of this :) I suppose I live in the "engineering" dorm, but I'm minoring in music so I'll be in several music groups, and I'm taking some completely unrelated electives. My goal IS to meet other people.
Well I hope your engineering dorms are better than the ones on my alma mater's campus, because they were basically a pit of lonely dispair. If you make an effort you can have a great time in any dorm - and certainly there were far, far worse places on campus (the drunken asshole dorm that my girlfriend lived in, ugh).
Normal people make mediocre engineers. If you want to be exceptional, you need to skip the parties, forget about girls, suck it up, and put in the work. You'll have the rest of your life to regret the crushing social isolation!
The only thing I really agree with you about is putting in the work. Otherwise, absolutely not (though, maybe my sarcasm detector is broken). Nerdy and anti-social != smart and capable, and some of the best engineers around are surprisingly well rounded human beings.
Not in my experience. Visit Caltech or MIT and count how many engineering students there are surprisingly well rounded. To become the best you have to focus on your field at the expense of other things.
Haha I took a sociology course first year as an elective. 80% were girls. Still only talked to like 5 of them :(
My roommate took a womens literature course and I went to one of his classes. We were from what I saw the only men there out of 60 students. This was such a bizarre occurance that his prof asked me if i was student there. I've been in other peoples classes of 15 which didn't even notice me.
I'm still not sure if that doesn't say much about the ladies, about men, about engineering, about liberal arts, or all of those things. Frankly it's easier to just say women can't engineer and get on with my life. I can't see any reason why you wouldn't want to professional speaking because even a mediocre female engineer major is bound to get gainful employment to fill some quota somewhere. On the other hand, you have to be around engineering men all day, which is 4 years of wear and tear on the soul after listening to starcraft discussions used a flirtation all day.
Dear, I suppose you don't understand the complexities of an evolving society. Let me explain to you: Women were considered mentally incapable of understanding science for a long time period. Even though this false belief is not held by our society anymore, things don't change from one day to the next. It takes time. It also took time after women were allowed into college for the proportion of woman in college to represent the proportion of woman in the total population. One might have said the same thing a little after woman were allowed into college: "derp, derp, women still don't go to college. It must be because they're dumb and can't understand superior education". Parents still teach their children that women are sensitive, while men are rational; girls can cry, while boys can't; that women are like this and men are like that and blah blah blah. The number of women in engineering has gone up. 20 years ago, the proportion women/men in engineering was much lower. It is changing, but, once again, it's not overnight. So there is a reason behind the fact that women are minority in the engineering field. And it is NOT because they're dumb, sweety. Btw, I graduated in mechanical engineering and I was consistently the best student in most of my classes. And I'll tell you, the statement you made, "even a mediocre female engineer major is bound to get gainful employment to fill some quota somewhere" IS NOT TRUE, darling.
looks like i went to the wrong engineering school
jag0007 110 points · Jul 2011
My engineering department has maybe 10-12 ladies and 2000 guys. of the 10-12, one or two are decent looking. One has a bf, and the other has the herp.
FML
brews 44 points · Jul 2011
I remember my first undergrad computer science class. I think there were 2 women there in a class of greater than one hundred.
I remember thinking to myself: "Man, and I thought this kind of thing was a joke..."
Nope it's not.
[deleted] 29 points · Jul 2011
Mine too; then it dropped to 0 the next year.
[deleted] 2 points · Jul 2011
As an IT guy studying psychology, I laugh at you.
brews 3 points · Jul 2011
Ha! Nearly all the women in my family have psych degrees... they are laughing with you. lol
[deleted] 4 points · Jul 2011
The last psyche class I took there were 14 women and 3 men.
reph 6 points · Jul 2011
Learning to control men is a lifelong skill.
sashimi_taco 7 points · Jul 2011
Looks like i'm going to engineering school. I like my odds.
flyingcarsnow 3 points · Jul 2011
and I like your username, wink wink, nudge nudge
sashimi_taco 3 points · Jul 2011
:3
tacoliquor 2 points · Jul 2011
I like it. I like it a lot.
sashimi_taco 2 points · Jul 2011
In my own perverted way i like to think that thousands of men see my username and inadvertently think about my vagina. me gusta
Hero_of_One 2 points · Aug 2011
In my own perverted way I think it's AWESOME.
tacoliquor 1 points · Jul 2011
Y U NO POST TO GONEWILD!?
sashimi_taco 2 points · Jul 2011
I do, just under a different account.
CorpWarrior24 1 points · Jul 2011
I... want... to... believe.....
idpeeinherbutt 2 points · Jul 2011
I also enjoy your username.
ex_ample 4 points · Jul 2011
Unfortunately you'll also have to deal with douche-bags like this
sashimi_taco 2 points · Jul 2011
Wow, they blame all their personal problems on faceless women.
[deleted] 3 points · Jul 2011
I've been reading far too much F7U12
[deleted] 4 points · Jul 2011
It's actually quite common to have lots of girls in engineering in non-western countries!
bit2reddit 2 points · Jul 2011
In India, You can find lots of girl in IT,Computer engg. and Electronics, but Courses like Chemical engg., Electrical and Industrial Control engg. has very few girls because They are considered as Field Jobs..
caks 1 points · Jul 2011
In Brazil too! It's pretty much split half and half here.
vitor_vfm 2 points · Jul 2011
...no, it's not. I think that's just your school.
[deleted] 6 points · Jul 2011
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[deleted] 19 points · Jul 2011
I think that's the derp.
jenesuispasbavard 2 points · Jul 2011
I was actually wondering which herp he meant. I guess I have the answer.
[deleted] 12 points · Jul 2011
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DoWhile 18 points · Jul 2011
Old, but relevant phdcomic
[deleted] 16 points · Jul 2011
"The odds are good ... but the goods are odd"
Brilliant.
[deleted] 3 points · Jul 2011
This is going on my dorm room door. Thank you kind stranger.
[deleted] 11 points · Jul 2011
Hi there. I was a dev for 10+ years, and now manage a team of devs. There are a lot more women in software since I started, but it's still dominated by men.
I would offer a few bits of advice to anyone getting into the business, but for women especially:
1) Just be yourself and enjoy the coding. Don't get hung up on other people's hang-ups.
2) You will almost certainly earn less than your male counterparts in the early years. When you have experience, find an employer who grades you on skill, and can back that up with data.
3) Ignore the whiny shits like u_fail, who seem to blame women in general for their inability to get a date.
4) If you meet u_fail in the workplace, treat him professionally. If he hassles you, though, let your boss know, and go to HR if it's still a thing after that.
u_fail 83 points · Jul 2011
CS guy here, you have to see out side. The little interaction we get with girls, makes it hard for us to meet girls. Where as girls have to make no effort to meet guys, because guys are the ones that have to put themselves out there and face rejection. So you'll have no problems meeting guys. So basically Fuck you.
[deleted] 15 points · Jul 2011
Girl here. You might notice that being in engineering I have a myriad of male aquaintences. Please note that I am not fucking any of them either.
Yea, I come off real nice and smart but it was not destiny that we met, there is less than 1% chance that I will desire a relationship with you (just the same with allll the other guys) but because you have a white belt in social skills you won't realize I'm gently trying to let you down and you'll continue to hit on me. When I break it down for you, you'll get bitter and angry and say unnecessarily petty and hurtful things. I could just find excuses to hang out less but that would be passive aggressive which you'll gladly point out to your friends while calling me a frigid bitch ice queen and planning my demise. It would leave a bad taste in my mouth.
We appear to have opposite problems which will probably only be solved by a whacky freaky friday adventure. Oh but that won't work because you'll stay inside all day playing with your boobs and I'll stay inside all day whacking off.
ex_ample 13 points · Jul 2011
Oh, here's your opportunity!
...and ...forever alone. This kind of attitude is what keeps women out of these fields, and makes it harder for nerd dudes to get laid. (no to mention meeting girls with the same interests)
[deleted] 14 points · Jul 2011
erm... maybe there's a reason you can't get a date?
That line doesn't work too well on chicks in my experience.
rabidhamster87 7 points · Jul 2011
Yes.
Fairyking 2 points · Jul 2011
Plus relationships are so full of double-standards these days with women it's a whole lot of fuck for guys.
[deleted] 9 points · Jul 2011
and not in the good way
[deleted] 1 points · Jul 2011
Honestly, college classes aren't really the best places to meet girls anyway, so I never really understood the "lack of interaction" excuse. Most socializing takes place outside of classes, and you meet a giant number of people of every gender. If you do something that is, anything. Join a club. Play a sport. Foozball down in the lounge. Get properly wasted once in a while. Live. There are more women than men in college now, less excuse than ever.
[deleted] 1 points · Jul 2011
give this guy a medal!
thecommentisbelow -4 points · Jul 2011
Not a great way to get girls. But nice try.
quincydude33 2 points · Jul 2011
The odds are good but the goods are odd, as they say.
Raz_Aquato 2 points · Jul 2011
So, recap for nerdy (unattractive) guys:
Good looking women do not like you. (not even the smart/quirky/nerdy ones)
Aurora_B 2 points · Jul 2011
Hey I want to commend you for going into CS. I just graduated with a Bachelor's in CS, my school consisted of 300 students, and only 15 girls. Its a boy's club, but its definitely worth it.
lotsofpie 0 points · Jul 2011
Fuck yeah, engineering girls.
In five years I was also incredibly surprised by the number of guys who were oblivious douchebags. An equally surprising number of those were frat guys.
jag0007 1 points · Jul 2011
decent looking and cs huh? too bad theres a .0000000001% chance i know you
[deleted] 1 points · Jul 2011
Resist the pressure to have everything done for you by fawning nerds. Every halfway decent looking girl in the major was totally useless by graduation time due to this phenomenon.
And do yourself a favor and do what I did - don't live in engineering dorms, don't go to engineering parties, and try to make as many friends outside of the major as possible - college is full of cool awesome people and very few of them are in your major.
And take some humanities classes, I've met too many engineers who didn't know ANYTHING about anything except for their job. There is more to life. Oh, and CS guys - do this too, that's how you meet girls in college. The opportunities are endless.
[deleted] 1 points · Jul 2011
Excellent advice, will take note of this :) I suppose I live in the "engineering" dorm, but I'm minoring in music so I'll be in several music groups, and I'm taking some completely unrelated electives. My goal IS to meet other people.
[deleted] 1 points · Jul 2011
Well I hope your engineering dorms are better than the ones on my alma mater's campus, because they were basically a pit of lonely dispair. If you make an effort you can have a great time in any dorm - and certainly there were far, far worse places on campus (the drunken asshole dorm that my girlfriend lived in, ugh).
reph 1 points · Jul 2011
Normal people make mediocre engineers. If you want to be exceptional, you need to skip the parties, forget about girls, suck it up, and put in the work. You'll have the rest of your life to regret the crushing social isolation!
[deleted] 1 points · Jul 2011
The only thing I really agree with you about is putting in the work. Otherwise, absolutely not (though, maybe my sarcasm detector is broken). Nerdy and anti-social != smart and capable, and some of the best engineers around are surprisingly well rounded human beings.
reph 1 points · Jul 2011
Not in my experience. Visit Caltech or MIT and count how many engineering students there are surprisingly well rounded. To become the best you have to focus on your field at the expense of other things.
Kryptus 0 points · Jul 2011
The hot IT guys get careers without a degree. ;)
BaqAttaq 1 points · Jul 2011
The Herp is her BF...
NonMaisCaVaPas 1 points · Jul 2011
Impressive ratio… We still had around 15~20% of girls.
[deleted] 1 points · Jul 2011
Haha I took a sociology course first year as an elective. 80% were girls. Still only talked to like 5 of them :(
My roommate took a womens literature course and I went to one of his classes. We were from what I saw the only men there out of 60 students. This was such a bizarre occurance that his prof asked me if i was student there. I've been in other peoples classes of 15 which didn't even notice me.
[deleted] 1 points · Jul 2011
Not like you would have done anything with a healthy and available 10 anyway, ya SAP.
Valid_Argument 1 points · Jul 2011
I'm still not sure if that doesn't say much about the ladies, about men, about engineering, about liberal arts, or all of those things. Frankly it's easier to just say women can't engineer and get on with my life. I can't see any reason why you wouldn't want to professional speaking because even a mediocre female engineer major is bound to get gainful employment to fill some quota somewhere. On the other hand, you have to be around engineering men all day, which is 4 years of wear and tear on the soul after listening to starcraft discussions used a flirtation all day.
Ally_Q 1 points · Jul 2011
Dear, I suppose you don't understand the complexities of an evolving society. Let me explain to you: Women were considered mentally incapable of understanding science for a long time period. Even though this false belief is not held by our society anymore, things don't change from one day to the next. It takes time. It also took time after women were allowed into college for the proportion of woman in college to represent the proportion of woman in the total population. One might have said the same thing a little after woman were allowed into college: "derp, derp, women still don't go to college. It must be because they're dumb and can't understand superior education". Parents still teach their children that women are sensitive, while men are rational; girls can cry, while boys can't; that women are like this and men are like that and blah blah blah. The number of women in engineering has gone up. 20 years ago, the proportion women/men in engineering was much lower. It is changing, but, once again, it's not overnight. So there is a reason behind the fact that women are minority in the engineering field. And it is NOT because they're dumb, sweety. Btw, I graduated in mechanical engineering and I was consistently the best student in most of my classes. And I'll tell you, the statement you made, "even a mediocre female engineer major is bound to get gainful employment to fill some quota somewhere" IS NOT TRUE, darling.
phynn 1 points · Jul 2011
Ya know, I have a buddy who is in Early Childhood Education. He says he's usually the only guy in his classes.