What would Riftbound’s One With Nothing be?

One With Nothing is a magic card famous for having a horrible effect at face value that has inspired deck builders to try to break it since its release to no success. What do you think Riftbound’s version of One With Nothing would be?

What would Riftbound’s One With Nothing be?

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BIGOT_ARCHERS

Garen legend

TheRealtorGuy

Hey now! I only managed to trigger his legend 3 times in a total of 6 rounds at my NN last night. That's 6 extra cards!

VagrantWolf

You had SIX rounds in your Nexus night last night?!? that’s more unbelievable than triggering your legend three times!

toomanybongos

I want garen to be good so bad lmao

HugTheBowz

1 mana, set your points to zero, draw a card for each point lost.

befron [OP]

I’m trying to figure out ways this effect would be powerful, which I think means this is a good One With Nothing suggestion.

I can see it being it good as a one of in a combo or control deck that is able to score some token points throughout the game. It would be an ancestral recall to dig on the turn you need to combo, or to find an answer to fully stabilize. But I suspect there’s probably just a better or more useful card to have in those scenarios. I’m pretty new at Riftbound so I don’t know how accurate that assessment is.

yamo25000

Could be useful in games with grand plaza (or whichever bf wins the game if you hold with 7+ units)

Ok-Mushroom-6530

That's a playable card though. Actually a very good card in some sort of late game control deck like ezreal. One with nothing is actively bad in basically all scenarios and has very few use cases.

icyDinosaur

I don't know if I'd call it "very good" in Ezreal. You're not usually scoring any relevant number of points until you already stabilised. Yes, every few games you'll be able to sneak points or put a Vex down early, but I think for every game where this is a 1 Energy draw 2/3, there are five games where it's a dead card.

Magicofthemind

Saw sb pro tour play at pt Honolulu in like 03 against owling mine

HairiestHobo

The one use case I've ever heard was as a sideboard option against a Deck that did damage by forcing you to draw, and then dealt dage equal to Cards in hand, and even that was dubious at best.

rober9999

Could even work for ezreal control

Aecert

This needs to be 0 energy at least for it to be balanced.

Superb-Stuff8897

Renata.
"Dragons" decks.

bernardomoleiro

I don't particularly think that the same effect in Riftbound would be as bad, since in MtG you will likely discard more cards than in Riftbound, and you can still draw lands that do nothing to move your gameplan forward (most likely)

In my opinion, it would have to be something that gives draws to your opponent instead, like "1E - Your opponent draws 3/4 cards", since often times this will discard 2-4 cards and in certain decks it could be good (Jinx and Zed come to mind, Kennen to some degree).

I can also see something like "1E - Your opponent scores 1 point" on the same level - you get further behind, terrible on its own, but can have some combos with Find Your Center type cards that have benefits the more your opponents have points,

midderss

The short version is it’d be One With Nothing, 1E Discard your hand. It’s chaos domain. It doesn’t do anything more powerful in this game than it does in Magic, and it puts you in top deck mode for the foreseeable future. If you want a card that’s unique to Riftbound, it’s Endless Riches, all someone needs to do is find a single piece of gear hate, and then all you’ve done is put yourself in topdeck mode and 7 cards closer to burning out

ArpeyKeys

Has to be maduli or jae medarda. I don’t think those cards will ever see play. Not even in a draft/sealed game probably.

Endless Riches is up there too, for now

knightinwhale

A key component of one with nothing is that it's not so much that discarding the hand is useless, but that it's one of the worst versions of this effect. In speed, cost and fine control, you will find better versions in virtually any format.

You have engines that do it at reaction speed, or spells that discard as part of a cost (no reaction possible to costs) for an upside...

chefupk

I would run this in my discard Rebel jinx deck.

Pitch cards for Rhassa, draw 2 for the next few turns. Enable rebel.

Zezima911

Endless riches. Card seems to have potential, but maybe not enough support yet.

Prackinhoff11

FF @ 15

Chirpotk

Mel legend