Revamping the Quarantine Function

While Reddit has had a quarantine function for almost three years now, we have learned in the process. Today, we are updating our quarantining policy to reflect those learnings, including adding an appeals process where none existed before.

On a platform as open and diverse as Reddit, there will sometimes be communities that, while not prohibited by the Content Policy, average redditors may nevertheless find highly offensive or upsetting. In other cases, communities may be dedicated to promoting hoaxes (yes we used that word) that warrant additional scrutiny, as there are some things that are either verifiable or falsifiable and not seriously up for debate (eg, the Holocaust did happen and the number of people who died is well documented). In these circumstances, Reddit administrators may apply a quarantine.

The purpose of quarantining a community is to prevent its content from being accidentally viewed by those who do not knowingly wish to do so, or viewed without appropriate context. We’ve also learned that quarantining a community may have a positive effect on the behavior of its subscribers by publicly signaling that there is a problem. This both forces subscribers to reconsider their behavior and incentivizes moderators to make changes.

Quarantined communities display a warning that requires users to explicitly opt-in to viewing the content (similar to how the NSFW community warning works). Quarantined communities generate no revenue, do not appear in non-subscription-based feeds (eg Popular), and are not included in search or recommendations. Other restrictions, such as limits on community styling, crossposting, the share function, etc. may also be applied. Quarantined subreddits and their subscribers are still fully obliged to abide by Reddit’s Content Policy and remain subject to enforcement measures in cases of violation.

Moderators will be notified via modmail if their community has been placed in quarantine. To be removed from quarantine, subreddit moderators may present an appeal here. The appeal should include a detailed accounting of changes to community moderation practices. (Appropriate changes may vary from community to community and could include techniques such as adding more moderators, creating new rules, employing more aggressive auto-moderation tools, adjusting community styling, etc.) The appeal should also offer evidence of sustained, consistent enforcement of these changes over a period of at least one month, demonstrating meaningful reform of the community.

You can find more detailed information on the quarantine appeal and review process here.

This is another step in how we’re thinking about enforcement on Reddit and how we can best incentivize positive behavior. We’ll continue to review the impact of these techniques and what’s working (or not working), so that we can assess how to continue to evolve our policies. If you have any communities you’d like to report, tell us about it here and we’ll review. Please note that because of the high volume of reports received we can’t individually reply to every message, but a human will review each one.

Edit: Signing off now, thanks for all your questions!

Double edit: typo.

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Halaku

On a platform as open and diverse as Reddit, there will sometimes be communities that, while not prohibited by the Content Policy, average redditors may nevertheless find highly offensive or upsetting. In other cases, communities may be dedicated to promoting hoaxes (yes we used that word) that warrant additional scrutiny, as there are some things that are either verifiable or falsifiable and not seriously up for debate (eg, the Holocaust did happen and the number of people who died is well documented). In these circumstances, Reddit administrators may apply a quarantine.

Fair enough.

Quarantined communities display a warning that requires users to explicitly opt-in to viewing the content (similar to how the NSFW community warning works).Quarantined communities generate no revenue, do not appear in non-subscription-based feeds (eg Popular), and are not included in search or recommendations.

So this is a way of making sure that advertisers don't find their products displayed on racist subreddits, "alternative truth" hoax subreddits, or other such 'unsavory' corners of Reddit?

Does the "Won't appear on r/popular" also apply to r/all?

landoflobsters [OP]

Yes -- it does apply to r/all.

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So this is a way of making sure that advertisers don't find their products displayed on racist subreddits, "alternative truth" hoax subreddits, or other such 'unsavory' corners of Reddit?

Does this mean The_Donald will be quarantined?

EDIT: I love how the admin responded to a Star Wars sub with a meme an hour after I asked the same question regarding The_Donald that was ignored.

DrewsephA

TD generates a huge amount of advertising money, of course they won't cut off that revenue stream.

maybesaydie

What are you talking about? There are no ads on T_D. They enjoy an ad free experience. Nice reward for hosting content that advertisers would disapprove of.

DrewsephA

They buy a huge amount of gold, as well.

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DrewsephA

His responses have since been deleted by the mods. Wonder why...

Because his responses then contradict his responses now, and we can't have contradicting responses, let alone in his fan club sub.

OhhhNoose

There is no war in Ba Sing Se.

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Is it archived anywhere? Ceddit isn’t fetching the removed comments.

jal0pee1

It was actually pretty difficult to find this archive.

edit: just a heads up, it's boring. someone made a table with all the answers he gave, I think it was 10-15 total.

youarean1di0t

FYI - archive.is domain has been hijacked for anyone using Cloud Flare DNS (1.1.1.1)

jal0pee1

Then here's a megalodon mirror of the mirror if anyone is having issues.

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Thanks!

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DrewsephA

Someone above said that /r/AgainstHateSubreddits has some archived links, I think

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They probably have it and if they dont r/stopadvertising might

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Spore2012

Who exactly deleted them? And can it be proven? I looked through the q and a archive and nothing seems hypocritical or whatever you are getting at.

DrewsephA

Who exactly deleted them? And can it be proven?

Sort of. The only people that can delete comments are the original commenter, the mods of the sub where the comment was submitted, or the admins of the site. And regardless of who actually did it, it doesn't look good for any of those parties.

nothing seems hypocritical or whatever you are getting at.

I haven't read it, so I can't say exactly what is or isn't hypocritical, but if it's anything like his tweeting, what he said one day, will be completely opposite of what he says another day (aka /r/TrumpCriticizesTrump).

ArcadianDelSol

also, /u/Spez can modify any post on the site at whim without leaving any evidence.

Spore2012

There are posts in that thread that have all the questions with the answers neatly organized. I don't see anything that would have been worthy of someone removing it for sake of hypocrisy or whatever. Unless someone can explain to me otherwise. I honestly don't know enough about the site operation or the intricate details of politics.

Most of the responses from Trump are pretty standard political stuff like "Ill do X for Y" or "I think Z is great" type of stuff. Nothing extreme or contradictory.

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roguevirus

E2: HAHAHA they're restored now lmao. What a fucking dumpster that place is...

I can only imagine you'll be brigaded to death in the coming weeks.

Lone_K

Death threats are numbing, all of it is shallow with little conviction. Anyone who makes death threats is bordering to the point of unstable and can nary last in social situations without being set off. It's grossly pathetic.

roguevirus

I agree but I'm not sure what that has to do with downvoting someone as a coordinated group.

Lone_K

Oh shit I put that comment together after reading one saying they already got a death threat and I think it kinda jumbled into a reply, I'm off my mark rn lol

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FreeSpeechWarrior

They appear to have restored these responses and the posts.

I looked into this, verified everything was removed (it was) and reported it at r/subredditcancer

But now everything is back.

r/The_Donald are still just as censor happy as the reddit admins if not worse.

frothface

TFW censored and banned from T_d and flagged by masstagger a t_d user..

FreeSpeechWarrior

People sometimes wonder why I don't speak up against t_d censorship more.....

This is why. Even participating in the sub in opposition is enough to get censored on a wide swath of the rest of the site while also being a recipe for getting banned in t_d itself.

It's like trying to argue against moderation policy in r/pyongyang but worse.

Angel_Hunter_D

With such hypocrisy I find myself liking T_D more and more

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critically_damped

They literally ban dissent. Makes me happy every time someone from there bitches about SENSORCHIPS

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I got insulted and banned from /r/gamerghazi because my one and only comment was "who uses DOOM for political inspiration?"

Getting banned for perceived "dissent" is far from exclusive to t_d

Cocaineandmojitos710

You'll get banned just as fast, is not faster, in LSC.

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Lsc?

Cocaineandmojitos710

Late stage capitalism, a communist sub dedicated to bitching and moaning. If you say anything near dissent, they ban you and make up a bullshit reason. I called something "stupid" and was banned for "ableism".

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jamesgiard

His 12 answers received 40 gildings...because... You know... He needs it?

I'll tell you what, that is one "millennial" thing I cannot understand, I'm not donating to Ninja, I'm not helping a Jenner become a billionaire, why would you give a rich person money that you earned!? They have money!

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Malachhamavet

The optimist In me agrees with you, the pessimist recalls how a company raised ridiculous amounts of money for an underwater breathing mask that was supposed to work by filtering oxygen out of the water like gills despite the science saying you'd need to feed water through at the speed of your average fire hydrants water pressure at full turn.

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mdgraller

Do you have an addon that changes Trump to Chucklefuck? Cuz it's fucking up your facebook link lol

PM_Me_Melted_Faces

I have an add-on that changes Trump's tweets to kid's crayon scrawlings. It's entertaining every single time.

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People near month brown day then games pleasant open fox hobbies open careful near bright.

C4ptainR3dbeard

I had a professor one time who had a Chrome extension that changed 'cloud' to 'butt' and 'the cloud' to 'my butt' because he was sick of it becoming a tech buzzword or something.

We didn't know about it until he googled something about the Equifax breach during a lecture and 'Buttflare' was the second result.

1RedOne

Lol buttflare, that's hilarious

ObnoxiousOldBastard

I had a bad case of buttflare last week. I'm starting to think that I need to keep away from dairy.

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AintAintAWord

Haha sorry. Yeah, I have a word replacer extension that makes reading the news a little easier. Check my edit.

Valk93

Why do you replace words in news? Edit: why does a question get downvoted...?

Jauris

It's funny. I have two extensions that do something similar. SJW -> skeleton and millenials to -> snake people.

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OldWolf2

IMO it wasn't even Trump. Just someone writing the answers they wanted.

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ObnoxiousOldBastard

Ayup. Good old Mr Epstein. It didn't come up in the '16 campaign because Bill Clinton was a buddy of Epstein's too.

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ObnoxiousOldBastard

no party line when you're dick is in a kid.

Or when you're dicking kids, apparently. Ever seen that photo of Trump & Clinton being best buddies at some event?

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YourAverageRedditter

“Excuse me what the fuck?” -Vault Boy

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John-Zero

Wait, why do your links include "Chucklefuck" but then when I click on them they say "Trump"? Do I have some sort of browser extension installed or do you?

AintAintAWord

Yeah, I have a word replacer extension. I edited the links from mobile so they should work now.

John-Zero

They worked the whole time! That's what was weird about it.

KindOne

You have a google cache or archive of them removing it?

Spore2012

Who exactly deleted them? And can it be proven? I looked through the q and a archive and nothing seems hypocritical or whatever you are getting at.

AintAintAWord

https://archive.is/rnB4U

The entire post along with any responses from trump were [Removed]. The mods must have gotten wind of it and restored them.

https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/9jf8nh/revamping_the_quarantine_function/e6rbey8/?context=3&st=jml36z26&sh=d4c8dd48

AintAintAWord

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Lol. I had some dumb fuck moron from T_D arguing that that sub didn't buy gold, because it didn't want to support the liberal Reddit bias.

They really are a bunch of delusional fucking retards.

dissenter_the_dragon

For the most part, they're disenfranchised young people that finally have a community to belong to. A community based on positivity, unity, exclusion and 'truth'. I can see the appeal. It's a draw for the self-righteous. Vindication is addictive. For people that feel smarter than their peers, and ostracized because of it, TD is a paradise. It's a garbage sub, a trash community with a ridiculous 'culture', but I get why people flock there.

xiphoniii

Not sure I've ever seen someone refer to that sub as a place of "positivity"...

JamesNinelives

Positive towards themselves/each other I suppose.

xiphoniii

Ah, I suppose. My only interaction with that group has been pure toxicity and nastiness towards anyone that disagrees with them, so I wasn't thinking that way.

drewret

they see trump as quite literal god figure

JamesNinelives

That's understandable!

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Positivity used in the same sense as Values is used at KKK meetings.

Angel_Hunter_D

They are very positive about Trump and some republicans, they also advocate being politically active. I can image worse places - like the sub that had "hot" dead chicks.

John-Zero

FINALLY! They finally have a community to belong to. Angry, white, and extremely online young men have suffered in silence and isolation lo these many years of the internet. But finally, in 2016, a place was made for them. An online Israel, except instead of for the Jewish diaspora it's for poorly-adjusted social malcontents who believe society owes them everything even though they've worked for nothing. Yes, there had never before been a place for such men to gather and do fun, positive activities together, like harass women out of the video game industry, or harass women out of the film industry, or harass women out of the STEM fields.

dissenter_the_dragon

I hear you, but you can't just lump them all in like that. The Donald, MGTOW, Redpill, MRA, that Kotaku shit, etc...yeah, it's generally young angry white dudes feeling attacked by 'society', but these dudes aren't all the same. Common thread, sure, is them feeling like mainstream culture is catering to others when it should be catering to them, but you have to acknowledge these people and recognize that they're not just walking stereotypes. Dismissing this shit and trivializing it is why we're at where we're at. Never underestimate the sensation of 'belonging'.

John-Zero

Dismissing this shit and trivializing it is why we're at where we're at.

Well my point is that actually it's not why we're at where we're at. That such men, and such spaces, have always existed. What has changed is that we refuse to stop amplifying them and giving them a prominent platform. Not that long ago, "Nazis are bad and should be shunned" was such a universally accepted premise that they were the obvious default bad guys in Indiana Jones movies. The Blues Brothers memorably committed vehicular assault--and maybe vehicular manslaughter, depending on how you read the final car chase segment--against American Nazis and everyone thought it was funny.

Put that in a movie now and just watch the furrowed-brow thinkpieces about the degradation of civil discourse roll in. That is what changed. We started being apologetic for shunning these people. We let Republicans work the refs until things got so bad even they were uncomfortable with it. And for every single one of these people we let back into polite society, for every impressionable young mind we allowed to be corrupted by their wickedness, a person of color got the message that America did not give a shit about them, and that voting in the election was pointless.

That is how we got into this shit. We owe the wicked nothing. We owe the oppressed everything.

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Angel_Hunter_D

I'm thinking of going there to avoid this kind of racism now, thanks asshole

John-Zero

Good. Please do, and please stay there forever.

Angel_Hunter_D

Maybe one day I'll see a world without hate...

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SafeAffect

LMAO imagine being this desperate and beta

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Species7

So you're saying it's a cult?

HarrisonOwns

They're largely uneducated chimps.

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They're largely uneducated chimps.

keksup

They're chimps. And there's no use arguing with them. (no I did not commit fraud)

some, I assume, are people

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I'm good. But thanks for the offer

Necoras

Gotta have some way to funnel in those sweet sweet Russian Kleptocracy Rubles.

ObnoxiousOldBastard

Or Russia does. Or the Kochs, etc.

randomusername1011

"Only people I agree with should be allowed to buy gold and support Reddit!"

DrewsephA

Only people who don't try to interfere in our elections should be allowed to buy gold and support reddit*

randomusername1011

Lol the "election interference" meme, still salty about 2016?

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hasharin

Peter Thiel invests in Reddit so it will never be banned.

rydan

Users = dollars in Silicon Valley.

Angel_Hunter_D

Some advertisers, not all

GhostFish

Someone just needs to contact the advertisers and let them know that their ad dollars are being wasted on bots, foreign agents, nazi sympathizers, and young men with no disposable income.

Bucknakedbodysurfer

young men with no dispossable income

damn dude. why u gotta lump me in with the fuckups. its like throwing the casual pot user in prison with the mother and father rapists. : (

mattreyu

Ads aren't run on T_D

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young men with no disposable income.

You mean like the NEETs in lastestagecapitalism? It's a well known fact that conservatives have more money than liberals, or the more logical way of looking at it that people with money are more likely to be conservative.

kruubbll

No, like advertisers give a fuck who they make money on, you've got to get media outrage to put pressure on advertisers.

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Aerik

actually it's their gilding.

saltystorage

Source?

Cunt_Shit

They removed the ads from TD so all of us are supporting their alt-right platform by proxy.

YourAverageRedditter

*Yuge

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