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Sword Art Online: Alicization – Episode 18 Discussion (Anime Only)

69 points · submitted Feb 2019 by u/defan752 · News

Episode 18: The Legendary Hero

伝説の英雄

THIS IS AN ANIME-ONLY THREAD. LIGHT NOVEL READERS SHOULD DISCUSS HERE.

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Sword Art Online: Alicization – Episode 18 Discussion (Anime Only)

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JhinTheDragonKing 43 points · Feb 2019

I'm with you brother

kacoret 31 points · Feb 2019 · Alice

We are all in the squad of hating that clown

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CorerMaximus 28 points · Feb 2019

The ending where the clown is obviously kidnapping Eugeo makes me sad- it hints at Eugeo being brainwashed and having to fight Kirito later on :( I really hope I'm wrong though, and he is mistreated by the Pointifex or something like Asuna was in earlier seasons, I don't want to see them fighting.

Antitheistic10 13 points · Feb 2019

I was thinking the same thing, but if they turn Eugeo into an Integrity Knight, unless they are able to change Alice's memory, she will realize that Kirito and Eugeo were right. She would have seen Eugeo as a human, and then a few episodes later as an Integrity Knight, so she will know Eugeo wasn't summoned from heaven, like Administrator claims they all are.

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Antitheistic10 3 points · Feb 2019

I haven't read any of the source material. That's just my guess for what happens. Either Eugeo will meet Kirito and Alice in battle and that will make Alice realize the truth, or Kirito and Alice will walk in on Eugeo being changed into an Integrity Knight.

Siglius 1 points · Feb 2019 · Eugeo

I'm thinking if they were to turn Eugeo into an knight, wouldn't his module just immidiately pop out upon seeing Alice and Kirito. There is no way the person most important to him isn't one of them.

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UltraNoahXV 1 points · Feb 2019

This clown reminds me of Jester from Devil May Cry 3 but is more like Kefka from Final Fantasy 6.

[deleted] 69 points · Feb 2019

I was hella confused when Mr. Secretary Clown showed up :D

Overall, rlly good fight and episode. loved Eugeo stepping up and taking things into his own hands.

Alice and Kirito with the buns reminded me of Asuna in season 1! Yay.

Thicshigi 50 points · Feb 2019 · Eugeo

Kirito picking girls with food (͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

emil_jacob_2000 28 points · Feb 2019 · Yumiko

Actually, it's the reverse. It's Asuna who picked Kirito with food. Remember Sandwich-kun?

Thicshigi 25 points · Feb 2019 · Eugeo

Kirito made Asuna interested in food with the cream bun if you remember (͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[deleted] 8 points · Feb 2019

Wahoo! What's Alice gonna do for Kirito then?

Thicshigi 5 points · Feb 2019 · Eugeo

Is this what we call a checkmate?ಠ_ಠ my brain is dead and I can't think of a non spoiler joke

BippityBorp 3 points · Feb 2019

Kirito just has a way with women and food

[deleted] 56 points · Feb 2019

Really cool fight between Bercouli and Eugeo, I enjoyed that he used the sword as a trap like that, even if at first I thought it had shattered and he was going to be left with only hand to hand combat, very nice gamble on the health too, though I guess it did backfire

The clown thing seems weird, hopefully it makes more sense later, but at the moment I'd have to say that I'm not a big fan

This is like the 5th time Kirito has pulled out steamed buns from his pocket, mans got some big pockets and a big appetite, but where is the lunch that Ronnie packed for him?

Kirito is going to have to be careful with Alice, the last thing he needs is for her to go into that mode like Elderie(?) while they're stuck on the outside of the tower, but I'm interested to see Alice's reaction to being told that Eugeo came all this way for her, I'm placing bets on "baka"

Ryuuji_Gremory 28 points · Feb 2019 · Asuna

They ate what Ronye gave them back in prison, they were down there for some time. Also I can understand Kirito, he got offered food that can restore life for free and knew he was about to face off against a bunch of powerful enemies, naturally he was gonna put as much of them in his pockets as possible.

Besides that as a gamer stocking up on healing items if you know your in for a boss rush is normal right ? ^

[deleted] 4 points · Feb 2019

I believe you, but I don't remember it happening or being mentioned, I'm still hoping that it turns out that there was something useful in Ronye's lunch that she packed.

And as far as being a gamer, stocking up on health items? Fine. Using the health items though? He's obviously an amateur, nobody actually uses potions in games right?

SaintNeos 12 points · Feb 2019 · Suguha

nobody actually uses potions in games right?

When you have been trapped in a game where dying means dying for real, 2 years? Yep, you end up to love and continuously use even the lowest of potions.

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SaintNeos 8 points · Feb 2019 · Suguha

Diavel actually was already dead by the time Kirito showed up to give him the potion, his HP was going down way too fast and he knew he wouldn't survive even if he drank it. The anime just didn't show that as clearly as the novel did :O

Ryuuji_Gremory 2 points · Feb 2019 · Asuna

He knew already that he was dead and the potion wouldn't have saved him so the best decision is to save the potion for the living.

diesal3 6 points · Feb 2019

Kirito is going to have to be careful with Alice, the last thing he needs is for her to go into that mode like Elderie(?) while they're stuck on the outside of the tower, but I'm interested to see Alice's reaction to being told that Eugeo came all this way for her, I'm placing bets on "baka"

I think we needed more angry Utaha-senpai in the voice at the end, but its do or die trying time for Kirito now with Alice.

dark77638 4 points · Feb 2019

He probably ate what Ronye give him already, in the prison.

Kiretsu 38 points · Feb 2019

Bloom Blue Roses!
Oh god i love Eugeo.

Siglius 34 points · Feb 2019 · Eugeo

It seems I've found a far more usefull pawn.

FUCKFUCKFUCK

About7Mudkipz 8 points · Feb 2019

Seems like Eugeo is going to be turned into a LNG integrity knight

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A_One_Wipe_Poop 12 points · Feb 2019

I’d guess you’re probably half-correct

Edit: This is speculation. I think something bad will happen but he will be redeemed

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IntegrityKnight 12 points · Feb 2019

Eugeo is fucking badass.

About7Mudkipz 11 points · Feb 2019

Anyone else feel like Eugeo is about to be turned into an integrity knight and have to fight kirito?

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Thicshigi 12 points · Feb 2019 · Eugeo

He got a trip to Antarctica today so I am sure you can call him the coolest or chilled ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°

diesal3 15 points · Feb 2019

I'm really glad they showed the release recollection part with Cardinal. They didn't show it back several episodes and I was worried why the left that part out.

I kind of guessed that it makes more sense for the anime viewer to delay the explanation of recollections until the point that they're actually used. And they do it very well here with the "instant" change in the baths from water to ice.

StornZ 1 points · Feb 2019

I forgot the name of the other recollection. I know there's 2 and release is the second more powerful version of the perfect weapon control.

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CrimsonKingXIII 16 points · Feb 2019 · Chrome Disaster

For some reason this episode felt like the fastest one to me and I don't mean that in a bad way, it just felt like the ending credits just really snuck up on me this time, I was just that invested in it. So many interesting things happened in this episode, the fight between Eugeo and Bercouli was great. Eugeo's fake out with his sword was very clever and seeing the second phase of Eugeo's enhanced armament was cool; I wonder what Kirito's will do? It's interesting that Bercouli was already doubting his role as Integrity Knight before Eugeo even started telling him what his past was like, I feel like it wouldn't take Eugeo long to fully break Bercouli from the memory control, too bad that damn clown guy showed up, hope he gets a taste of his own medicine and is frozen solid. I don't like how the clown guy has plans to turn Eugeo into an Integrity Knight, at least that's what I imagine that they're going to try to do to Eugeo. I wonder how difficult it will be for Kirito to free Alice from the memory control she's under? Looking forward to next week.

100WordAnime 6 points · Feb 2019

I really enjoyed watching Eugeo's fight as well. It was interesting seeing him using skills Kirito has clearly taught him but really finding his own way of using them in this fight. Really great fun.

KuroiBlack 2 points · Feb 2019

Since catching up every episode has been like that for me. Those credits man they really do sneak up on ya!

dark77638 16 points · Feb 2019

  • Incarnation power <<Arm of Mind>> has manifested!

  • So much pressure from the oldest, most experienced knight number one

  • Alice became integrity knight 6 years ago??

  • Big talk by Eugeo lol, Kirito has infected him down into his vein

  • Time Piercing Sword Enhance Armament: Empty Slash

  • How many time can Eugeo use his Enhance armament huh? Also continue by Release Recollection. His Blue rise sword should almost deplete of its Life by now

  • Nice crystal ice sword though

  • F**king Jester Chudelkin. He’s more annoying, far uglier than in LN

  • Yeah Alice’s stomach cry is also as cute as herself. Meat bun cooking&sharing is lovely

  • Selka & Big reveal coming soon!

TheDarkRobotix 2 points · Feb 2019

yeh she was taken away when she was 11 and now theyre 18-ish?

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delcanine 8 points · Feb 2019 · Kirito

Damm, I hope that this arc has a happy ending.

TaigaSZN 7 points · Feb 2019

Alright, this is my first time posting on an episode thread so here are just a few of my thoughts on the episode:

Bercouli seems like an awesome character and it appears tgat he may be changing sides in the near future as his memory improves. I hope that we get to see more of him as an ally rather than an enemy.

Eugeo! It looks like Eugeo is starting to become a formidable fighter on his own after developing throughout the climb. The fake sword technique he used was awesome and I can't wait to see what other tricks he has up his sleeve!

I guess that Eugeo's been captured now? It'll be interesting to see what happens to him, where he ends up in the tower, how he gets rescued, ect.

I'm not digging the clown and hope he dies soon. That is all.

Alice has been making this season so much better over the last few episodes! Her antics with Kirito are reminiscent of the first few episodes of Aincrad when Kirito and Asuna first met.

I wonder at this point whether or not Alice's memories will be restored or if she will gain them back slowly (like the one of her sister) and grow as a character without fully having them restored. Either way, it'll be fun to see what's next for her.

I can't wait for the next episode!

Karmide 5 points · Feb 2019

That clown is weird as hell.

ShinyShovel 3 points · Feb 2019

So are they going to turn Eugeo into an integrity knight? Its really going to tug on my heart strings if he and Kirito end up dueling.

ThunderChaser 1 points · Feb 2019

LN (14) Spoiler

Ironicpower4 5 points · Feb 2019

Is anyone elses crunchyroll not letting them watch it or is it just me?

[deleted] 7 points · Feb 2019

Play episode 17, skip to the end and then let it autoplay, episode 18 started for me with no problems when I did that

Ironicpower4 4 points · Feb 2019

Thanks 👍

aaa801 5 points · Feb 2019

Crunchyroll has been screwed for the last week

dankappledrank 9 points · Feb 2019

OOOOO boy Eugeo about to go to the Dark Side and face his brother-in-arms in a duel, so much hype!

Also, fuck that clown.

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Ryuuji_Gremory 11 points · Feb 2019 · Asuna

I wouldn't really say he went easy on him, he himself proclaims that he was serious and I believe him that he was serious within the parameters he set for himself, he was fixated on defeating him without killing him because Eugeo and Kirito spared (and then even secured treatment) for Fanatio and he was overconfident (well overconfident is not really the right word since he has the skill and strength to back up that confidence and arrogant seems to negative but I think you get what I mean).

Eugeo simply used that to his advantage and gambled it all on doing something completely outside of Bercouli's expectations to overwhelm him.

KuroiBlack 7 points · Feb 2019

I think Eugeo 'overpowered' (in a sense) Bercouli, before he realized that he should have gone more all in.

seitaer13 2 points · Feb 2019 · Strongest Player of 2020

He just didn't use his release recollection from the start, he fought seriously with enhance armament though. There's nothing to say he wouldn't have still used his release if the clown hadn't come in at that point.

Lilyisavalkyrie 2 points · Feb 2019

EUGEO IS SUCH A FUCKING BADASS.

Tu2 2 points · Feb 2019

i spy something with my little eye beginning with gay clown

ExF-Altrue 5 points · Feb 2019

Sooo, for Eugeo to bet on his life total being higher than Bercouli, he must have a way to disable the life drain before his own life runs out. Otherwise, there's no point in which person dies first...

If that's the case, then how come he didn't disable the life drain and ice once the clown appeared and Bercouli clearly showed signs of not being hostile anymore?

He if could and didn't, then he's a moron. If he couldn't, then that was a losing strategy from the start.

Either way this doesn't make much sense. Cool fight though!

diesal3 7 points · Feb 2019

Let's go back to the fight that Kirito and Eugeo have already had with Fanatio (Episode 15), when Fanatio releases her swords recollection.

Based on what we saw there, it would appear that you have different aspects to the recollection process:

  • The releasing of the recollection itself: Here it's basically the process of saying "Bankai" in Bleach, except that the declaration is "Release Recollection". In the case of Fanatio, it's elevating the sword from the state of being what is essentially a semi-auto beam rifle (her armament) to a sword that can rain the power of the sun. It also doesn't appear to be easy just to unleash, otherwise everyone would be doing it right from the get-go.

  • Using the recollection and the abilities it provides: In Fanatio's case, the ability is firing light rays everywhere. In this fight, she does initially use this, you get to see it in all its horrifying glory. If it were simple as saying the incantation as letting it rip, Eugeo wouldn't have been able to interrupt it when using his armament.

This suggests that there is a surprising amount of unsaid user control that goes into armaments and recollections which has to be maintained.

My inference from this is that Eugeo is gambling on being able to stop his recollection release before it kills him, despite the effects of being drained of life in the process (which we know affects the ability of the person to do anything).

ExF-Altrue 1 points · Feb 2019

Thanks for the explanation :)

SJSN2002 3 points · Feb 2019

Is Eugeo going to become an integrity Knight? (Any spoilers are welcome)

Siglius 2 points · Feb 2019 · Eugeo

LN (14) Spoiler

BleedingUranium 1 points · Feb 2019 · Argo's Guide

This is also why the recap episode is coming now, because Ep18 is the final station before the train goes full speed ahead to the endgame.

Siglius 2 points · Feb 2019 · Eugeo

LN (14) Spoiler

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ZeHaffen 9 points · Feb 2019 · Master Debater

  1. Your spoiler tags aren't working

  2. Speculation is not spoilers.

JhinTheDragonKing 1 points · Feb 2019

When Eugeo said the roses are blooming because it steals their lives, it reminded me of Ruri'iro Kujaku's shikai in Bleach.

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Siglius 2 points · Feb 2019 · Eugeo

LN (14) Spoiler

narulock 1 points · Feb 2019

The link you gave doesn't seem to work

Siglius 2 points · Feb 2019 · Eugeo

It's a spoiler tag. Not a link. It doesn't work on mobile. I'll PM you the spoiler instead, but please edit your original comment. You might spoil other people.

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OmegaVesko 4 points · Feb 2019 · 「…だから、僕のコードネームは《アイソレータ》です」

This comment isn't appropriate for the anime-only thread. Go to the LN reader thread if you really want to ask for spoilers.

narulock 1 points · Feb 2019

Sorry about that. I'm still new here so I'm a bit clueless about everything

ReaVNaiL 1 points · Feb 2019

Am I the only one that wants Alice to be Kirito’s waifu and not Asuna, I’m starting to see as a beautiful couple :/

gazxl 1 points · Feb 2019

ZA SWORUDO

FromTheIslandCas 1 points · Feb 2019

There was a guy in the last episode discussion page who predicted that they might turn Eugeo into an Integrity Knight. That person is either very smart or has read ahead in the source material (although to be fair, they could take this in a different direction too).

TheKnight119 1 points · Feb 2019

I've read the LN up until the point kirito and eugeo gets handed off to Alice, and there is a lot of foreshadowing done to impy that Kirito may end up crossing swords with Eugeo. That said, I'm not 100% sure as there could always be an unexpected twist with the foreshadowing. Only way to find out is to continue watching and reading but damn I freaking love this arc.

[deleted] 1 points · Feb 2019

ENNANSE.... ARMAMENTO

balfair 1 points · Feb 2019

I don't want Eugeo to forget. I don't want Eugeo and Kirito to fight. I don't want to suffer like this. (My guesses)

Abhi_1999 1 points · Feb 2019

Can anyone tell me in which episode kirito's were expected use his dual wielding skill in SAO alicization

Estova 2 points · Feb 2019

I keep expecting it to show up. When he was fighting Alice one on one in Ep17 I thought he'd borrow Eugeo's sword.

Thicshigi 1 points · Feb 2019 · Eugeo

Last episode of the cour

Abhi_1999 1 points · Feb 2019

Can u tell me episode number(specific)

Thicshigi 1 points · Feb 2019 · Eugeo

Either it'll be a teaser in ep23 at the end or a full reveal in 24th episode.

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