Sword Art Online: Alicization - War of Underworld - Episode 5 (Anime Only)

Episode 5: Night Before Battle

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War of Underworld

Episode 4 - Dark Territory

Episode 3 - Final Load Test

Episode 2 - Raids

Episode 1 - In the Northern Lands

Alicization

Episode 24.5 - Reflection

Episode 24 - My Hero

Episode 23 - Administrator

Episode 22 - Titan of the Sword

Episode 21 - The 32nd Knight

Episode 20 - Synthesis

Episode 19 - Seal of the Right Eye

Episode 18.5 - Recollection

Episode 18 - The Legendary Hero

Episode 17 - Truce

Episode 16 - The Osmanthus Knight

Episode 15 - The Relentless Knight

Episode 14 - The Crimson Knight

Episode 13 - Ruler and Mediator

Episode 12 – The Sage of the Library

Episode 11 – Central Cathedral

Episode 10 – Taboo Index

Episode 9 – Nobleman's Responsibilities

Episode 8 – Swordsman's Pride

Episode 7 – Swordcraft Academy

Episode 6 – Project Alicization

Episode 5 – Ocean Turtle

Episode 4 – Departure

Episode 3 – The End Mountains

Episode 2 – The Demon Tree

Episode 1 – Underworld

Sword Art Online: Alicization - War of Underworld - Episode 5 (Anime Only)

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loved the whole episode. It gave me goosebumps all the way. The ending is spectacular too.

insecuredane

Me too! I loved the way they showed the troops with the outro and the gate breaking just looked epic.

RoachIsCrying
GoldRedBlue

I knew I wasn't the only one who thought of the pillar of light from Minas Morgul in Return of the King lol

BleedingUranium

Helm's Deep really is a fitting comparison here, in tone, odds, and cinematography, even if it lacks a castle.

RoachIsCrying

All's left is best boy Aragorn (put in Bercouli in his spot) with a motivational speech before the grand battle how they are all his brothers and sisters, that he can see the same fear that plagues the heart in him, that the courage of men shall falter with shattered shields and broken swords BUT IT IS NOT THIS DAY!

tykimchi78

This arc will now have The Sword of a Thousand Truths (South Park) to kill a man with no life/soul & The Battle of Helm Deep/Minas Tirith/Black Gate (Lord of the Rings). Bercouli better have an epic speech lined up, rivaling that of Independence Day!!!

deangsana

You have my Elucidator

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CrimsonKingXIII

I like how they established that even in the state Kirito is in there is enough of him still present to where he can fight back to an extent. Looking forward to the battle to come next week.

kpiaum

I liked the parallel they made between the Emperor and Kirito. Both sitting and expressionless, only each with their own motive.

Siglius

They're both "empty" in each their own way.

[deleted]

Very interesting point. Though if kirito could choose he'd be on the frontline fighting in the midst of it all and not sitting watching others fight for him.

kpiaum

I mean, not this way, but as someone else said: They two are empty inside.

Siglius

Gabriel literally has a defect in his fluctlight, just like Kirito has at the moment. That's why he's so fucked up. Thats essentially where his mental illness stems from

RockisLife

If I remember from ep 3. Its said that his self image is damaged but he can still react and is receptive to various stimuli. He blamed himself so his image is damaged but he still has the muscle memory of his skills that he has developed so it would make sense he can fight to an extent. I look forward to seeing what happens to him when the battle begins.

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tykimchi78

His mind may be gone, but his EX harem skill is still fully functioning ;)

Sunzide

The calm before the storm

dark77638

Lovely dragons love

So much character development for Eldrie Synthesis Thirty One.

Best girls return, with tears

Nice moment Alice Vs Fanatio, Bercouli gotta bail out

Liena-senpai and Eugeo’s senpai Two new Knights

Full Army line up from both Human empire and the Dark land with spectacular Great Eastern Gate crumbled to dust. So much HYPE

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It made my heart tear in two when Tiese and Ronye revealed that they'd been blaming Kirito and Eugeuo's arrest on themselves

BleedingUranium

Ronie and Tiese are precious cinnamon rolls, they deserved to be happy. :(

In some alternate universe where Kirito was actually a resident of Underworld all his life, those four could have made such a wonderful pair of badass sword-wielding couples.

[deleted]

Eugeo and Tiese would have made a great couple

I'm not going to touch who Kirito should be in a couple with though because I don't want people to be angry with me

Mystic_Arts

I honestly believe, even in any alt universe. Kirito and Asuna would always find each other. Some how, some way. They are destined for eachother

BleedingUranium

That's why I said "alternate universe where Kirito was actually a resident of Underworld all his life", that Kirito and Ronie would make a great couple.

[deleted]

Don't let the Kirito x Alice shippers hear you say that you fool!

BleedingUranium

Haha I love Alice, and I'd sure as hell want to date her, but I'm not Kirito; I just don't see them as compatible in a romantic relationship sense, even putting aside that Kirito has only known her for like 12 hours.

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Going off this episode Alice at least clearly thinks they're compatible

And if we're using the time accelerated thing here then you could make a similar arguement for why you can't say Ronye is compatible

....hang on, you sly dog, you had me monologuing

tykimchi78

From Alice's perspective, she has been taking care of him for 6 months now. A girl got needs ;) In all seriousness, Alice's romantic confession was great.

I feel bad for Eldrie. He wants Alice to look at him like she does with Kirito.

ElecticMad

Fanatio rly thought a lap dance would bring kirito back to reality lmao

tykimchi78

I don't think some Ara Ara action is going to cut it. "Fanatio, you're with Bercouli!!! Stay in your lane & get out of Alice's and Asuna's lanes!!!"

[deleted]

Asuna arriving is gonna be such a thor moment when he arrives in Wakanda.

nickal_alteran1988

I’m wondering about what kind of account to expect after seing the 2 that existed for the dark territory! Considering that gabriel got vector, would it be possible that an account the same kind would exist to log in like say: solus or stacia, or any other “ god” really, that’d be dope. To imagine some kind of reinforcement falling from the sky during the 300 lollll

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i’m not sure... when they showed the accounts for the human empires none of them seemed remotely close to skill level of the darks. hell gabriel has “xxx” as his object level lol

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rightthigh_

Wondering where Asuna is but I’m super excited for next week!!!

Every time they play a scene with the ED music I get goosebumps. Absolute banger!

Redmon425

ED by far the best they have ever had. One of my all time favorites.

I can’t wait for Asuna to show up.

Ryuuji_Gremory

Well you still have to keep the time acceleration in mind, UW runs at x1000 times the speed of the real world, meaning just 10 minutes IRL are about a week in UW.

[deleted]

Right, but it's purposefully vague in terms of the timeline of when Asuna dove in vs when the bad guys dove in, the bad guys are there already, Asuna could already be somewhere in the Underworld trying to figure out where to go, or she might be weeks and weeks away from getting there

Ryuuji_Gremory

Well we were purposely shown that Asuna logged in after "the bad guys". And it's been only a 2-3 days since Vector arrived so maybe 5 minutes IRL

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stormyx22

did Kirito just freaking parry an attack with his mind?

[deleted]

His name isn't Jesus-Kun for nothing...

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Redmon425

Holy hell I am hyped right now!

This episode was so damn good, maybe the best of the season so far.

Alice and Fanatio’s conversation was so funny.

NO GOD. PLEASE NO DEATH FLAGS FOR ALICE.

Also, where the hell is Asuna at?! I keep waiting for her to show up!

Alice with the cutest cock-block of all time on Fanatio who was trying to give Kirito that Ara Ara ;)

TR3MIC

Even though we saw Asuna going to the STL, time goes way faster in the Underworld (she's maybe still walking to the machine). So she will come, but probably not for a little while.

[deleted]

Huh, good point. I never considered that in my impatience to see Asuna in the underworld...

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makes_witty_remarks

Considering this is an anime only thread, I really dont want to see any LN spoilers. I know we saw her go into the STL room, but it still shouldve been left open to interpretation

[deleted]

Yeah, every week in this sub there are LN readers too stupid to understand the difference between the two threads.

[deleted]

I really enjoy the occasional funny scenes so the Alice Fanatio scene was great!

tykimchi78

I agree!!! Bercouli's a wise man. He was like nope and it's time for the War Council. Alice got cock-blocked as well by Ronye & Tiese. Alice's romantic confession was great. "But maybe it’s because I’ve been suppressing my feelings that you can’t hear my voice. If I were to unleash all of my willpower at this moment, would you respond?" She has a lot of willpower that's been building up over the course of 6 months. I really wanted to see it in action. It could've been one of the most passionate kiss scenes of all time!

Fanatio's character arc did a total 180. She wants to be seen as a woman now. Hard pass on Ara Ara lol

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Remediesxx

That broken Eugao sword damn and lol they brought Kirito to the battlefield. I just hope the hired missionaries weren't tipped about Kirito. Better hope nobody yells out Alice's name since Emperor Vector is there.

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It would be phenomenal if we could ACTUALLY hear Eugeo says “Don’t cry. I’ll always be here” the moment Tiese touches the Blue Rose Sword ...

raykyleevans

Yeah, then we know it's real. Half of me was like aw that's so sad, but half of me was also like this crazy bitch is hearing voices

[deleted]

Does anybody know how I can skip time to next week? Thanks.

dtape467

if you find out, please share

Blales

ZA WARUDO

ElecticMad

KINGU CRIMSON

MyKillYourDeath

I mean not exactly. Those 10 seconds happen but everyone else is not privy to them. You still gotta experience the time between now and next week.

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In one of the episodes I SWEAR I heard King Crimson's sound effect.

ElecticMad

I wanna speed up time, not stop it

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DrewskyStomp

I'm just going to go to sleep for a week and wake up when the next episode is out. This may be the longest week of my life.

Cave-Atlas

Really enjoyed all of this episode.

Getting to see more uses of the Incarnate System has been really cool. Looking forward to more of that.

Seeing Tiese and Ronnie again was awesome, especially with the little bit of development along with Alice.

Loved how Alice played off of Fanatio and their little bit of bickering. Was really funny when Bercouli just walked away lol.

Overall, I have really liked the development of a lot of these characters, but I'm so ready for the next episode and the battles to begin. Getting a taste of it during the night raid a couple episodes ago was such a tease.

tykimchi78

Bercouli's best man because he's not like other anime male protagonists. He doesn't get flustered or says awkward things which makes the situation worse. He just walks away. Bravo, my man. :)

KenJaeger

Past few episodes have been so dark.This is a nice change of tone.

[deleted]

Yeah, the last one was unexpected with the whole soul-eating thing...

I was basically like "wtf" the whole damn episode.

GetDeletedM8YT

All right did anyone realize that freaking Lena and Gorugorosso were in episode. When meeting( War Couil) they were there.

Nanfrostcrystal

I can't wait until Liena meet up with everyone...

Ubway

As in previous weeks, I will try to summarize as much as I think.

As predicted, before the war, there are always consolations, remorse breaking and the establishment of an atmosphere. Reki Kawahara was able to portray very well, in a passage full of drama and dialogue, how this farewell mood is formed in a platoon. The background of war, from a one-way ticket to a disastrous scenario of uncertainty, is very well created with these sentiments. This is why each of the characters (except Deusolberth, Kirito and Bercouli) solves a personal drama before the possibility of death in this episode, and this is commendable as it adds good character development. Follow me with:

In the foreground, Eldrie and Alice, as well as Bercouli himself, leave us stunned in their dialogues with the exorbitant difference of armies. It is not even necessary to explain all the details in order to understand the great disparity of war power on both sides. But most surprising is how we also see here a damaging face to everything Quinella has done. His memory manipulation experiments, the roots of the Axiom Church, were responsible for the loss of nearly 1/3 of the Knights. At the end of the episode, we see, again, the exorbitant difference, in a very well-directed scene and a perfect hook for the next.

Another fact that draws a lot of attention (and, after all, is made to impact) is how Kirito can use the power of imagination even if only by reflex. Bercouli's plan to test this information is extremely creative, drawing on his expertise with the "Clock" sword. But the interesting thing is to see how, from the beginning, Kawahara creates a setting landscape, how the characters gradually discover that Kirito has great combat experience, how they realize his great potential for using the mind in that world. And, after all, this is one more way of setting the viewer about the great relevance of the connection between Fluctlights, about the determinancy of mental connections and responses between souls in that world, as the characters increasingly use this device (Volo, Kirito, Shasta, and now Alice).

Since the beginning of the first half of Alicization, I've been drawing attention to how Kirito, a UWO human, is able to influence each of the Artificial Fluctlights as soon as he comes in contact with them and exposes his worldview, his humanity and his judgment. And it is in this episode that we are exposed to a confirmation of how decisive your entire journey is.

What to comment on Alice's growing development? She still shows great restraint and uncertainty about having "stolen someone else's body," and this is a way of showing how, for humans, it simply doesn't matter what happens, there is always remorse and a attachment to an old drama. But at the same time, not only us viewers but the characters themselves are able to tell how it has changed since its introduction. Ronie and Tiese make this very clear in their speech, stating how she went from being a knight of integrity who imposed fear and submission to a person who acts on her feelings and judgments, as Alice became free from the reins of the Church and the Piety Module.

The character herself puts in a monologue her gradual transition. She faces a clash of reality, of existence, arousing feelings for Kirito and at the same time questioning whether she has the right to develop them. Another noteworthy factor, too, is how well your texts are written. Seriously, when I watch Sword Art Online, every time Alice opens her mouth, I'm awarded philosophical lines and honorable speeches. And her own consideration that the Soul is the most important factor, showing detachment from the body, serves to make clear the character's transition, how much she has become attached to existence, since she herself exists only as a soul, and not as a body. The teaching she used is also not only for the viewer to digest this information better, but to make it clear that she is now able to manipulate the power of imagination.

Another point that deserves great attention is the drama created with Ronie and Tiese, as well as the way they arouse a sense of guilt. If, on the one hand, they are secondary characters and therefore do not receive as much screen time as Alice, on the other hand it is necessary to see how the only passages they appeared in this half already summarize perfectly as they are others to be influenced. greatly by Kirito's ideals. It is Alice's turn, however, to expose how Kirito himself had transformed his worldview. The "message from Eugeo" was a sensational element, and I'm sure many of you shed good tears, just like me. And of course, none of this would be possible without the excellent texts (also of these two characters) and without the impeccable direction, soundtrack and vocal acting combined in this scene.

How could I also forget to mention Fanatio's development (or rather the completion of a development)? From a knight completely inhibited by the difference in her gender, the clash between the reality of her techniques and the previous judgment of her opponents, to a character who can accept her own reality and be able to live with it. This is very evident in Opening, but it is also perfectly highlighted in their dialogues. And she herself expresses gratitude and attributes this change to Kirito's attitude. The following comedy scene reuses the first season's "With my Friends" soundtrack and, at least for me, has achieved its humor goal.

Speaking of gratitude, the drama experienced by Eldrie (since EP1) is finally channeled into a developmental pair for both him and our protagonist, Alice. Not only for her own "farewell" to Kirito, facing the uncertainties of life when entering the war, but also the employment of a completion state of Eldrie. She breaks her master's status with him and thus makes him overcome the "prison" that he himself has created between this bond and his goals. In other words, Alice frees him from his "chains" and exposes him to the point of view she has encountered on her journey: striving to protect what she loves and pursuing her goals and accomplishments. After all, Eldrie was extremely attached to this bond, while remorse from his previous life, before becoming a knight, continued to plague him with uncertainty (as Fanatio, Bercouli, Deusolberth and Alice, Eldrie also have memories before his synthesis that are reactivated).

Finally, a war wouldn't be complete without a plan, would it? And, ladies and gentlemen, what a detailed plan. Only in Fanatio's dialogues, we can already notice the use of geographical advantage, inspection of terrain resources, among others. Of course, in a major war where you start at a disadvantage, you would need a consistent strategy (unlike the Dark Territory squad, which we have not seen strategies for now). However, incorporating this dialogue during preparation is excellent for incorporating more realism into the war that Kawahara portrays. In addition, one episode, in my opinion, excellent from beginning to end, which consolidates the season's 10th grade and raises the record to five episodes. Heavy applause.

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Thanks for posting this comment! Love your views and analyzing skills!

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So many tones packed into one single episode: Emotions, Despair, Warmth, Life Lessons, Humour, (and a little bit of) Romance, and of course, Suspense.

OMG! Never seen an Alice that kind and caring, a huge change from her cold and cruel personality after encountering Kirito! The scene where she incarnates into Alice Zuberg was phenomenal!

Anyone (almost) screamed out when Alice faces TTTHHHAAATTT closely at Kirito? I know I almost did?

very-RISKy

Holy shit unlasting gets the blood flowing. I ‘m excited to see when Asuna get slashing. HYPE

kpiaum

Man, LiSA's ending song deliver. So many emotions on that song.

Cheese_Nut

Kirito is going to fck sht up at the end of this arc, btw love the ending of ep 5

Lebsfinest

Im just waiting for Kirito to get on the battlefield and fight purely through instinct. Ultra Instinct Kirito with the song and everything.

ltgenspartan

Next week can't come fast enough, I'm ready for the war to get going lol.

Also, Alice will be crushed when she finds out Asuna and Kirito are a thing.

Nashetania

Another amazing and emotional episode! Still eagerly anticipating Asuna can’t she come sooner!

TheRevelations

The ED was gave me the chills so bad. I want to fast forward next week

furosuto81

Sorry for wait on this week's screenshots. I'm at GalaxyCon Minneapolis today and had to take a few hours to get them done in between panels & other Con festivities. Lots of emotional impact moments in this episode, and the screenshots reflect that. Hope you enjoy.

Episode 5 Screenshot Stitches

Episode 4 Screenshot Stitches

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Episode 2 Screenshot Stitches

Episode 1 Screenshot Stitches

GetDeletedM8YT

All right did anyone realize that freaking Lena and Gorugorosso were in eposide. When meeting( War Couil) they were there.

kenji905

So am I expecting asuna to show up in about 2 episodes?

FraudulentCake

Excellent episode. This huge Lord of the Rings esque battle on its way, queue Europe playing the Final Countdown, and they still found time to give some solid character development to 5 seprate characters.

HOWEVER. Asuna needs to get tf in there, my balls have gone from blue to purple.

Browsethenyell

Makes me think of Lord of the rings the final battle for human against evil i hope that flashing light also summons asuna and like how the tower of sauron fall asuna falls through the world and rekts the dark territory

goldarm5

Being hyped for lol worlds and watching previous worlds songs Rise really fits the current sao, lets go kirito: Proove yourself and rise!

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I need help.

I don't remember what the deal is with this "Final Load Test"... Can someone please explain? :(

seitaer13

Because RATH couldn't get the AI to break rules the set a final test where the Dark Territory would attack the Human Empire in an attempt to force the AI of Underworld to break rules.

Originally the average citizen should have been fighting small battles and leveling up the whole time like Kirito and Eugeo did. Quinella threw a wrench in that and concentrated all of that power into 31 Integrity Knights.

TheThunderOfYourLife

Oh, Ronye and Tiese reacting to Kirito and the Blue Rose Sword.....

I actually did tear up. That must have been catastrophic for Tiese.

Poor girl. I wanna hug her.

achaomein

In before Asuna shows up with her leveled character and wrecks havoc

MikuJrd

Here we go, LN readers will love the incoming sh*tstorm

PutsUpvoteInUsername

My dumbass was confused for the rest of the episode when fanatio showed up. Almost as confused as i was when i thought she was with the baddies in the dark territory last episode. Turns out i dont pay attention to eye colors and names very well. Why the f does lipia and fanatio look so similar?

seitaer13

Bercouli/Fanatio and Shasta/Lipia are supposed to mirror each other.

Z3R01D

Love the ending part for this episode. It really made the feeling when LiSA's song played together at the end as the light shines on everyone.

Very emotional.

Nap-Lover

The last scene when everyone was preparing for the battle coupled with the ED was just epic!

It kinda made me happy that Tiese heard Eugeo’s words because it feels like Eugeo is still there, inside his sword, watching everyone.

I don’t really know how to feel about Alice almost kissing Kirito. First, Alice knew the ‘active’ Kirito for just one day before he became a vegetable so I don’t really feel that Alice has seen enough of him to fall in love (I assume she is in love?). But on the other hand, he was the one who changed her world so it is pretty understandable...mmm. Also, I feel sad for Eugeo. I know that Alice Zuberg died and this is Alice S30 but it still feels sad that the body of the girl Eugeo loved was about to kiss his best friend. And ever since Alice took care of Kirito she never mentioned how Eugeo shook her world, the closest thing was to take care of his sword. This is so confusing...

I wonder how Alice will react to Kirito already having a girlfriend?

Zaphkiell

I think you're fixating on the wrong thing with that whole body nonsense. Alice even made a wonderful speech about how one's body is only a vessel and only the heart and soul are what truly matter. Alice Zuberg and Eugeo are together now somewhere anyway if I interpreted last season correctly, so I wouldn't stress too much over them. It's Kirito, Alice Synthesis Thirty, and everyone in Underworld I'd worry about!

ohitsmarkiemark

Alice is cuter than Asuna.

I'm ready to be thrown tomatoes.

iDeltaReddit

I died a bit when Alice transformed out of her armour. So innocent and cute ;) Give us more

kuroyaiba

Where is Asuna ?!?!

seitaer13

Time dilation. Five minutes IRL is 3 days inside.

kuroyaiba

Oh...I thought she already got in the world. This makes sense

GBcrazy

Nooo where is that alice kiss scene

I feel so blue balled right now rip

But very good episode, interested in this war

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